whilst I would enjoy it if Spurs go down

[Pat Vegas]

it won't distract from our collapse*

*still time to fix it but we won't

[Rich]

it won't distract from our collapse*

*still time to fix it but we won't

Maybe with Saka and Odegaard back we might. But Zubimendi seems shot to pieces. Is Merino back before the season is done?

If not maybe MLS gets a go next to Rice.

[Pat Vegas]

Maybe with Saka and Odegaard back we might. But Zubimendi seems shot to pieces. Is Merino back before the season is done?

If not maybe MLS gets a go next to Rice.

something is really off with him. maybe something off field.

[Peter]

Maybe with Saka and Odegaard back we might. But Zubimendi seems shot to pieces. Is Merino back before the season is done?

If not maybe MLS gets a go next to Rice.

It is all down to the game at the Etihad on Sunday. Lose there and it is over. Get a draw, and we are still in with a distant shout. It would be a brave or stupid man who would be confident of us avoiding defeat there.

For the moment, he has lost the fans. It is the Mourinho effect. This kind of dreadful football is only acceptable when it is winning you things. The minute it isn't, you lose everyone.

They'll never say it, but I promise you this- the players HATE the way we play. You can see it in their actions. You can see how frustrated Declan Rice is, pretty much all the time. Nobody becomes a footballer to wrestle at corners and feign injury.

[Rich]

It is all down to the game at the Etihad on Sunday. Lose there and it is over. Get a draw, and we are still in with a distant shout. It would be a brave or stupid man who would be confident of us avoiding defeat there.

For the moment, he has lost the fans. It is the Mourinho effect. This kind of dreadful football is only acceptable when it is winning you things. The minute it isn't, you lose everyone.

They'll never say it, but I promise you this- the players HATE the way we play. You can see it in their actions. You can see how frustrated Declan Rice is, pretty much all the time. Nobody becomes a footballer to wrestle at corners and feign injury.

Mik Arteta has shown his willingness to adapt over the course of his tenure. He'll listen to his five captains too - and I'm sure Declan is a big enough boy to explain what he thinks. That's partly what makes him a great manager. Be under no illusion - if we sack him then he'll be snapped up by a huge club and have massive success.

We should keep him and give him what he needs in forward areas for next season.

I see that a draw against City (we have no chance of that) and a draw against Newcastle means we can still win the league with wins against Fulham, West Ham, Burnley and Palace; even if City win all their remaining games (they will). But I really cannot see us winning those four anyway.

[Peter]

Mik Arteta has shown his willingness to adapt over the course of his tenure. He'll listen to his five captains too - and I'm sure Declan is a big enough boy to explain what he thinks. That's partly what makes him a great manager. Be under no illusion - if we sack him then he'll be snapped up by a huge club and have massive success.

We should keep him and give him what he needs in forward areas for next season.

I see that a draw against City (we have no chance of that) and a draw against Newcastle means we can still win the league with wins against Fulham, West Ham, Burnley and Palace; even if City win all their remaining games (they will). But I really cannot see us winning those four anyway.

He really, really won't. His reputation as a coach has hugely gone downhill over the last two seasons. Winning the league this season would have restored it. But you have to look around at the reaction- it isn't just me saying this. This football is absolutely, ****ing atrocious. And I am not a purist, by any means. I loved George Graham's sides, even the **** ones. But this is something else. It is an absolute car crash to watch.

No fans are going to want to watch that every week.

Anyway, it is irrelevant. We are not sacking Arteta.

[IUFG]

For the moment, he has lost the fans. It is the Mourinho effect. This kind of dreadful football is only acceptable when it is winning you things. The minute it isn't, you lose everyone.

They'll never say it, but I promise you this- the players HATE the way we play. You can see it in their actions. You can see how frustrated Declan Rice is, pretty much all the time. Nobody becomes a footballer to wrestle at corners and feign injury.

This.

Formulaic football. And when the formula doesn't work, we get Saturday's performance.

[Peter]

This.

Formulaic football. And when the formula doesn't work, we get Saturday's performance.

And everyone else is working out the formula. Now every half decent side is capable of blocking it.

And, because you have removed all the autonomy from the players, they are unable to think on their feet and adapt. They just keep doing what they are told, while he dances up and down the touchline shouting at them.

City are going to make us look very ****ing silly on Sunday. It's going to be humiliating and horrible to watch.

And it is all so stupid, and so unnecessary. This side is capable of so much more.

[WES]

And everyone else is working out the formula. Now every half decent side is capable of blocking it.

And, because you have removed all the autonomy from the players, they are unable to think on their feet and adapt. They just keep doing what they are told, while he dances up and down the touchline shouting at them.

City are going to make us look very ****ing silly on Sunday. It's going to be humiliating and horrible to watch.

And it is all so stupid, and so unnecessary. This side is capable of so much more.

It is amazing how difficult we make passing through a press look.

At one point in the Sporting match one of their defenders had the ball at the top of their box as we pressed. A midfielder ran into the space behind the press, the defender clipped the ball over the pressing players to the midfielder who took one touch and then played it to their left side where the left sided defender had run into space and away they went.

I remember wondering why we can't seem to do something so simple. Three players playing a simple pattern using skills that you would expect every professional footballer to have.

Baffling

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

something is really off with him. maybe something off field.

First year in his life he's had to deal with a mad English season as opposed to a relaxed Spanish one without non-stop footie except Xmas when there's twice as much. He's already played more games this year than ever before and there's still a month or more to go.