Seems to be a lot of discussion around Arteta's future

[Rich]

He can't change the way we play. If he could change the way we play, we wouldn't be playing this way.

This is exactly it. Clearly our front three need a full upgrade (Saka aside maybe).

Against City Havertz will have to play up top. There is absolutely no point playing Gyokores in that game as City will play very deep with defenders that can easily mange his limited skill set.

[Rich]

Of course he can. He changed the way we play to this rubbish. He can change it back.

And if he cant, or doesn't want to, then he can leave.

Yes. He can. But he can?t do that while competing for titles. So what do you want?

Don?t be obtuse.

[Peter]

Yes. He can. But he can?t do that while competing for titles. So what do you want?

Don?t be obtuse.

He did. And we did compete for the title. In fact, we got closer then, against a good city side, than we will this season against a **** one. And we won more points than we will this season.

If we had played like that this season we would have won the league. There is nothing obtuse about it.

This....style....of....play....does....not.....wor k!

[Rich]

He did. And we did compete for the title. In fact, we got closer then, against a good city side, than we will this season against a **** one. And we won more points than we will this season.

If we had played like that this season we would have won the league. There is nothing obtuse about it.

This....style....of....play....does....not.....wor k!

But you are treating the way teams play against us as a constant. They have adapted? previously we were afforded lots of space in the PL which is why players with limited technical ability excelled. Now we face the deepest block in the league every week.

This is also why we do so well in the CL now.

The only answer (and I really mean it) is elite talent in the final third. We have very much mid range talent there now. Which makes us unusual compared to our rivals.

[John Bunnell]

It doesn't seem to me teams are playing deep anymore in fact they are high pressing and we don't have a clue what to do.

[WES]

This is exactly it. Clearly our front three need a full upgrade (Saka aside maybe).

Against City Havertz will have to play up top. There is absolutely no point playing Gyokores in that game as City will play very deep with defenders that can easily mange his limited skill set.

You need to get over Gyok, Rich. You told everyone he was the worst Arsenal player you had ever seen. He made you look stupid. You apologised.

It's time to move on less you begin looking stupid again.

[WES]

But you are treating the way teams play against us as a constant. They have adapted? previously we were afforded lots of space in the PL which is why players with limited technical ability excelled. Now we face the deepest block in the league every week.

This is also why we do so well in the CL now.

The only answer (and I really mean it) is elite talent in the final third. We have very much mid range talent there now. Which makes us unusual compared to our rivals.

Yeah, because back in the Wenger years everyone came to Higbury/Emirates and attacked us for 90 minutes. No one ever put 10 men behind the ball and played for 0-0 back then. Defending deep and in numbers against us has only happened in the past few years

[Rich]

You need to get over Gyok, Rich. You told everyone he was the worst Arsenal player you had ever seen. He made you look stupid. You apologised.

It's time to move on less you begin looking stupid again.

He won't play against City in fairness. He's improved but still a liability against better teams.

[Peter]

He won't play against City in fairness. He's improved but still a liability against better teams.

He will play. Unless he gets injured against Sporting.

And I expect Havertz will play behind him, lingering as the long ball outlet to help us bypass the City press. What Arteta doesn't know, and wont have prepared for, is that Pep will have a different plan for us this time.

[WES]

He will play. Unless he gets injured against Sporting.

And I expect Havertz will play behind him, lingering as the long ball outlet to help us bypass the City press. What Arteta doesn't know, and wont have prepared for, is that Pep will have a different plan for us this time.

Our inability, or lack of desire, to pass through a high press has been with us a while, Peter. If Arteta could have solved it this season, with these players, I think he would have.

It would surprise me if City do anything other than what they did at the start of the second half in the Caraboa Cup.

Minnd you, I have no intention of watching it