Gary Neville is being ridiculous

[Peter]

I don't get that. I know their historic rivalry was the NW derby with the Scousers, but it must hurt being the second best team in their city.

Actually, thinking about it, is it that City have just bought it? All their trinkets will have 115 asterisks, but if we win, we'll have done it far and square like Fergie and Wenger etc.

Genuine question, P, and I haven't thought it through myself.

Sperz get bought buy some petro-dictatorship and spend billions each year after openly bribing the FA, PL, Uefa etc.

It's them against a resurgent Man U {managed by some former player you hate as much as I hate Neville} for the title. Who do you want to win?

I still don't want Sperz to win. I don't care about the asterisks. I don't care ManU pull further away from us in all time titles.

Though I can sort of see where they're coming from. If City with everything then us, Mancs and LFC are where we've always been. We're equals. Doesn't matter if one is 2nd, one is 5th and one is 17th in the grand scheme of things.

But kids in the playground will be choosing City over Utd. They'll lose their City. Surely that means more? How can they cheers for their City rivals?

Not even a question. Anyone but Spurs. Literally anyone.

But then I am a North Londoner who supports Arsenal because my grandfather did, and his father before him.

It is different. These guys are cockney reds. Not saying they aren't genuine fans, but they dont get the Mancunian aspect of it. They dont know what it means, as they say.

[Peter]

United still have far more sway than City in Manchester. Both my girls would be United fans if I hadn't stepped in

Bloody right!

My nephew supports Everton, because his father does.

It is a patriarchal line. There should be no arguments about that

[PSRB]

Bloody right!

My nephew supports Everton, because his father does.

It is a patriarchal line. There should be no arguments about that

My eldest used to wind me up that she would support spurs because she liked Hurri Kane....thankfully she was just being a prick.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

United still have far more sway than City in Manchester. Both my girls would be United fans if I hadn't stepped in

If City's dominance went on for another whole generation would it stay that way?

Does everyone in Manchester already have a team so it gets passed down, and Manchester will always be mostly MU?

I know their historic rivalry with LFC but did they never have one with City? I don't remembering the Manc derby being "friendly" in the way the Merseyside one was.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

Not even a question. Anyone but Spurs. Literally anyone.

But then I am a North Londoner who supports Arsenal because my grandfather did, and his father before him.

It is different. These guys are cockney reds. Not saying they aren't genuine fans, but they dont get the Mancunian aspect of it. They dont know what it means, as they say.

Gotcha now.

So basically they care more about their rivalry with their fellow Londoners than they do about the club's historic city rivalry. That explains it, I suppose.

But I do think they are missing something. They're supporting ManU wanting to be the biggest in London, not in Manchester.

[PSRB]

If City's dominance went on for another whole generation would it stay that way?

Does everyone in Manchester already have a team so it gets passed down, and Manchester will always be mostly MU?

I know their historic rivalry with LFC but did they never have one with City? I don't remembering the Manc derby being "friendly" in the way the Merseyside one was.

Oh it's certainly not 'friendly'. Maybe because I live in Trafford I know far more United fans than City fans.

The ones wanting City to win the title, I think is because it deflects from how terrible they are. I think they've just accepted that they're playing 2nd fiddle to City but still think they're on a level with us.

Let's not forget they got relegated in the 70's and were as ****e as they are now until Fergie arrived but still had a huge fanbase when I was growing up in Surrey

[Peter]

Oh it's certainly not 'friendly'. Maybe because I live in Trafford I know far more United fans than City fans.

The ones wanting City to win the title, I think is because it deflects from how terrible they are. I think they've just accepted that they're playing 2nd fiddle to City but still think they're on a level with us.

Let's not forget they got relegated in the 70's and were as ****e as they are now until Fergie arrived but still had a huge fanbase when I was growing up in Surrey

The money is relevant, in my experience. As City simply bought the league, they feel it doesn't count. When THEY could outspend everyone that was fine, as it was football-derived income.

They have convinced themselves that City destroyed football and good, honest clubs like them cant compete. So when Liverpool win it, they hate it. Us winning it is somehow worse.

They genuinely believe that every team tries harder against them than against anyone else

Pretty funny, really

[PSRB]

The money is relevant, in my experience. As City simply bought the league, they feel it doesn't count. When THEY could outspend everyone that was fine, as it was football-derived income.

They have convinced themselves that City destroyed football and good, honest clubs like them cant compete. So when Liverpool win it, they hate it. Us winning it is somehow worse.

They genuinely believe that every team tries harder against them than against anyone else

Pretty funny, really

I hate Chelsea more than City on this front, City's owners just saw what the Russian gangster had done and thought we'll have a bit of that as well.

[Peter]

I hate Chelsea more than City on this front, City's owners just saw what the Russian gangster had done and thought we'll have a bit of that as well.

I agree. But I also think it is wrong to deny the football achievement.

Yes, city can outspend everyone by a mile, and yes they are cheating.

But what Pep has achieved cannot be achieved just with money. I think you can still applaud the work, even if you despise the way the club have treated the game.

That really ****ing winds them up

[PSRB]

I agree. But I also think it is wrong to deny the football achievement.

Yes, city can outspend everyone by a mile, and yes they are cheating.

But what Pep has achieved cannot be achieved just with money. I think you can still applaud the work, even if you despise the way the club have treated the game.

That really ****ing winds them up

It's a bit nonsense that they had a few injuries in December/January and can just casually drop ?100m+ fixing those issues with significantly better players