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Thread: Halfway through the season and I think it is fair to ask

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    Halfway through the season and I think it is fair to ask

    Has Madueke actually contributed anything on that right side that we dont think Nwaneri could have done?

    A few of us questioned the signing, and the cost, in the summer. And he isnt a bad player. But we have him producing some fairly ordinary performances while Nwaneri has had to go on loan to get games.

    I thought that right hand side was a good place for an 18 year old to adjust to senior football rather than slinging him into the central role when he isnt really ready.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Has Madueke actually contributed anything on that right side that we dont think Nwaneri could have done?

    A few of us questioned the signing, and the cost, in the summer. And he isnt a bad player. But we have him producing some fairly ordinary performances while Nwaneri has had to go on loan to get games.

    I thought that right hand side was a good place for an 18 year old to adjust to senior football rather than slinging him into the central role when he isnt really ready.
    3 goals in 4 Champions League appearances this season. More than Nwaneri and in less than half the number of games. Has also done very well for the senior England team.

    in the PL he's not had much game time really. But seems to posses that quality where he can unlock something from absolutely nothing. And still a very young player himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Has Madueke actually contributed anything on that right side that we dont think Nwaneri could have done?

    A few of us questioned the signing, and the cost, in the summer. And he isnt a bad player. But we have him producing some fairly ordinary performances while Nwaneri has had to go on loan to get games.

    I thought that right hand side was a good place for an 18 year old to adjust to senior football rather than slinging him into the central role when he isnt really ready.
    Has great potential, good dribbling skills and a turn of pace that worries defenders. Always hard to judge these signings when they?re not getting a long run of games. He deputised brilliantly for Saka in an England shirt. I like him. His finishing?s a bit off but if he got that right, he?d be seriously running Saka close.
    Question is, will he stick around when he could be starting week in week out elsewhere ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich View Post
    3 goals in 4 Champions League appearances this season. More than Nwaneri and in less than half the number of games. Has also done very well for the senior England team.

    in the PL he's not had much game time really. But seems to posses that quality where he can unlock something from absolutely nothing. And still a very young player himself.
    He's 24 in 5 weeks' time. Incidentally, has the same birthday as me

    Not exactly young, but not at his prime yet either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7sisters View Post
    Has great potential, good dribbling skills and a turn of pace that worries defenders. Always hard to judge these signings when they?re not getting a long run of games. He deputised brilliantly for Saka in an England shirt. I like him. His finishing?s a bit off but if he got that right, he?d be seriously running Saka close.
    Question is, will he stick around when he could be starting week in week out elsewhere ?
    That's what we were told; looks good but you'll soon begin to wonder about his end product.

    He'll be fine, decent signing.
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

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    Quote Originally Posted by redgunamo View Post
    That's what we were told; looks good but you'll soon begin to wonder about his end product.

    He'll be fine, decent signing.

    Question: if Madueke was a good finisher and played the right final ball, would still be at Chelsea? Answer: Yes

    Question: can Arteta teach him to finish and play the right final ball? Answer: TBD

    Question: was it therefore worth 50mil to see if he can teach him and at the same time provide some additional depth? Answer: Yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by WES View Post
    Question: if Madueke was a good finisher and played the right final ball, would still be at Chelsea? Answer: Yes

    Question: can Arteta teach him to finish and play the right final ball? Answer: TBD

    Question: was it therefore worth 50mil to see if he can teach him and at the same time provide some additional depth? Answer: Yes
    Havertz hasn?t done a bad job of answering a few of those points since his move.
    Plenty of players who turned a corner away from their home clubs. Chelsea have a terrible record in allowing their players to thrive elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WES View Post
    Question: if Madueke was a good finisher and played the right final ball, would still be at Chelsea? Answer: Yes

    Question: can Arteta teach him to finish and play the right final ball? Answer: TBD

    Question: was it therefore worth 50mil to see if he can teach him and at the same time provide some additional depth? Answer: Yes
    I'd agree with all those answers. It's just.... well, that wasnt the question i asked

    Was it worth spending 50 million on this when we could have used Nwaneri instead, and spent the money elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    I'd agree with all those answers. It's just.... well, that wasnt the question i asked

    Was it worth spending 50 million on this when we could have used Nwaneri instead, and spent the money elsewhere.
    Fair, but I'm not convinced at all that we would have seen the best of Nwaneri on the right, or that he would have progressed as a player playing there.

    I think a better question would be whether or not we should have bought Eze and given Nwaneri a chance there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WES View Post
    Fair, but I'm not convinced at all that we would have seen the best of Nwaneri on the right, or that he would have progressed as a player playing there.

    I think a better question would be whether or not we should have bought Eze and given Nwaneri a chance there.
    Another fair question. I didn't think Nwaneri was ready for that role. It's too much responsibility for a guy who has spent his life being head and shoulders above everyone else on the pitch and hasn't had to think too much about tactics and match situation.

    The loan move is perfect in a way, assuming he plays regularly in that position. The only trouble is that every time he plays well and Odegaard or Eze dont, the arseholes on twitter will rage about it. But I guess they have to rage about something.

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