I understand that Leeds have lost one of their least eleven games :-(

[Peter]

There is certainly a consensus near where we sit that Arteta has to fall on his sword should he not win the PL.

I'd possibly only let him off if he then won the CL.

I dont think he would have to leave. But he would have to substantially change his approach. I want that to happen either way.

Truth is that you could wait 20 years for a better chance to win the league than this. And even if we were to win it, we wouldn't again. Not playing like this.

[7sisters]

I dont think he would have to leave. But he would have to substantially change his approach. I want that to happen either way.

Truth is that you could wait 20 years for a better chance to win the league than this. And even if we were to win it, we wouldn't again. Not playing like this.

Really ? I think if it all comes to nought, he becomes the definitive dead man walking. The Kroenkes have had their turn in the barrel but have now proven their worth by their recent investments. There?s now talk of a ?500M stadium upgrade, which means another 10k seats to fill.
They?re not going to make exceptions for a manager who keeps going close imo

[Peter]

Really ? I think if it all comes to nought, he becomes the definitive dead man walking. The Kroenkes have had their turn in the barrel but have now proven their worth by their recent investments. There?s now talk of a ?500M stadium upgrade, which means another 10k seats to fill.
They?re not going to make exceptions for a manager who keeps going close imo

Maybe. Generally, demanding a title win or else is pretty unreasonable. But if you cant win this one......

[redgunamo]

Really ? I think if it all comes to nought, he becomes the definitive dead man walking. The Kroenkes have had their turn in the barrel but have now proven their worth by their recent investments. There?s now talk of a ?500M stadium upgrade, which means another 10k seats to fill.
They?re not going to make exceptions for a manager who keeps going close imo

Dunno. The Kroenke's know that while, yes, we have money now, "other clubs" have the same money and more and they've had it for longer. And theirs is infinite, limitless.

Like you winning a million on the football pools last weekend and your neighbour having won ten million ten years ago. You will still have alot of catching up to do.

[7sisters]

Dunno. The Kroenke's know that while, yes, we have money now, "other clubs" have the same money and more and they've had it for longer. And theirs is infinite, limitless.

Like you winning a million on the football pools last weekend and your neighbour having won ten million ten years ago. You will still have alot of catching up to do.

Ferguson stood up fairly well to the Abramovich juggernaut. The only one to do so. We were mired by stadium debt repayments, while Liverpool simply wilted.
There?s still an expectation with the neutral that Arsenal should be amongst the serious contenders, the big five, or is it 6, or 7 these days.
It puts the Kroenkes in an unenviable position.
Liverpool went a few rounds with City and managed to win a couple of titles.
We surely can?t fall back on our heels and become Spurs ?

[redgunamo]

Ferguson stood up fairly well to the Abramovich juggernaut. The only one to do so. We were mired by stadium debt repayments, while Liverpool simply wilted.
There?s still an expectation with the neutral that Arsenal should be amongst the serious contenders, the big five, or is it 6, or 7 these days.
It puts the Kroenkes in an unenviable position.
Liverpool went a few rounds with City and managed to win a couple of titles.
We surely can?t fall back on our heels and become Spurs ?

At the end of the day, you must be right. After all, we're really only talking about the manager and the job he's doing.

[Peter]

At the end of the day, you must be right. After all, we're really only talking about the manager and the job he's doing.

Today he is asking us to jump on the boat.

Too many jokes there so I won't bother making one

[redgunamo]

Today he is asking us to jump on the boat.

Too many jokes there so I won't bother making one

Well played, remarkable restraint.

Decent press conference, I thought. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't; something really needs to change yet we're top of the league. The only way he can win is by winning.

I'm going to take his advice and enjoy it either way

[Peter]

Well played, remarkable restraint.

Decent press conference, I thought. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't; something really needs to change yet we're top of the league. The only way he can win is by winning.

I'm going to take his advice and enjoy it either way

One thing is for sure. If we do win the league, the footballing world is going to go crazy. The outpouring of hatred and disgust across the country will be hilarious.

I've never seen a more hated team than this one. I suppose I get it, to some extent.

But people ****ing hated Wenger with a passion until he won the league. That forced them to calm down a bit.

Form and function, again

[redgunamo]

One thing is for sure. If we do win the league, the footballing world is going to go crazy. The outpouring of hatred and disgust across the country will be hilarious.

I've never seen a more hated team than this one. I suppose I get it, to some extent.

But people ****ing hated Wenger with a passion until he won the league. That forced them to calm down a bit.

Form and function, again

In a way, Arteta is a far more suitable Arsenal manager than Wenger; he's willing to feed off and feed into our traditions, rather than subvert, overthrow and sabotage them.

Can you imagine the Frenchman employing a set pieces coach and making a big deal about corners? But this is who we are!

In his book, Tony Adams talked of having recently signed for us and being invited to watch a game from the directors' box and for the first time experiencing the crowd getting up when dear old Willie Young would lope forward for a corner kick, and deciding he wanted that reaction for himself as well and would work to make it so. A small thing, but a big deal.

Anyway, people didn't like Wenger and the feeling was pretty mutual; he didn't "like" us much either. Inadvertently, Brexit was his greatest triumph. It wouldn't have happened without him as he was the best, most public personification of the EU that the movement could've wished for. He was a constant reminder to people of just why we don't like Europeans; smug, whiny, aloof, know-all autocrats you simply cannot get rid of