The climate grift #358

[Peter]

Yes, of course. Nice retraction, Pedro, it has made my respect for your musical views increase, ever so slightly.

Mick and Keith are from Dartford, Brian Jones from Gloucestershire. Bill and Charlie are the only Londoners. It is debatable......

The Who are proper Londoners, across the board.

Obviously, The Stones are comfortably the superior band. Not even close.

[Peter]

Indeed. Well played

I don't want to dislike Maiden, I really don't. I just can't help it....

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

I get what you're saying. I think my cynicism around the whole thing is based on the hopelessness of it. Seems the only way you make a difference is by the entire world signing up to fundamental changes tot he way we live. And that just isn't realistic. It isn't how international politics or economics work.

So we just focus on charging people more for stuff and destroying art and sporting events.

If it is all true, we are ****ed. I prefer to focus on cheerier things like war, famine, genocide and The Who ...

Agreed.

In reverse order, the only solution would be intl agreement and we won't get it. It will be every nation state for itself. {cf Egypt doing gas deals on the side of the last COP.} Anyone who thinks any oil exporting country will leave a drop in the ground is deluded. We're ****ed. And as Lovelock said around 15-20 years ago, we might as well all give up and razz Ferraris cos it's over. It's too late. The planet's dead. And this is the real life Q, not some manky hippy I've met 'round the fire at a free festy.

But re: the hopelessness. We don't have kids, we believe the Hindu idea that we're living in the age of Kali Yug, and am therefore more accepting of the idea that it's all over. All life if just part of the Divine. There is still 1bn years before the sun expands. The dinosaurs went 65mya. There's more than enough time for intelligent life to re-evolve and learn from our mistakes.

I have no problem with your cynicism, your fear for your kid's descendents, your hatred of humanity's selfishness in the wake of this issue.

But please don't question the science when you haven't studied it cos it makes you sound like a flat-earther and you're better than that.

Lovelock said razz Ferraris. I say take drugs and dance. You might as well just enough yourself and if you can take tiny actions to relieve the suffering of others along the way - give a quid to a beggar, bung a bag of sugar in the foodbank bit at the supermarket - then do it.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

Funny you should say that. You know in the early part of their career The Who had a clause in their contract that nobody ever went on after them. By the end of the 60s they dropped that clause, as nobody was willing to go on after them.....

Speaking of which, do we class The Stones as a London band? If so, obviously I retract my earlier claim......

I prefer The Who to the Stones.

[Peter]

Agreed.

In reverse order, the only solution would be intl agreement and we won't get it. It will be every nation state for itself. {cf Egypt doing gas deals on the side of the last COP.} Anyone who thinks any oil exporting country will leave a drop in the ground is deluded. We're ****ed. And as Lovelock said around 15-20 years ago, we might as well all give up and razz Ferraris cos it's over. It's too late. The planet's dead. And this is the real life Q, not some manky hippy I've met 'round the fire at a free festy.

But re: the hopelessness. We don't have kids, we believe the Hindu idea that we're living in the age of Kali Yug, and am therefore more accepting of the idea that it's all over. All life if just part of the Divine. There is still 1bn years before the sun expands. The dinosaurs went 65mya. There's more than enough time for intelligent life to re-evolve and learn from our mistakes.

I have no problem with your cynicism, your fear for your kid's descendents, your hatred of humanity's selfishness in the wake of this issue.

But please don't question the science when you haven't studied it cos it makes you sound like a flat-earther and you're better than that.

Lovelock said razz Ferraris. I say take drugs and dance. You might as well just enough yourself and if you can take tiny actions to relieve the suffering of others along the way - give a quid to a beggar, bung a bag of sugar in the foodbank bit at the supermarket - then do it.

To be fair, I didn't question the science. I questioned my ability to question it. As the great man said, I don't criticise what I can't understand.

I know a couple of flat earthers. They are a great night out

[Peter]

I prefer The Who to the Stones.

Oh, come on.........

[WES]

I prefer The Who to the Stones.

SAY IT AIN'T SO GG!!!

[WES]

Oh, come on.........

Keith Richards is a genius, and I don't use that term lightly. He isn't a beautiful guitar player, but what he plays is beautiful.

I sometimes listen to the videos on youtube of someone playing his guitar lines from Stones songs. I think I like them better than the songs themselves.

Tumbling Dice being my favourite. Honky Tonk Women and Midnight Rambler slightly behind. Genius.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

To be fair, I didn't question the science. I questioned my ability to question it. As the great man said, I don't criticise what I can't understand.

I know a couple of flat earthers. They are a great night out

Fairy Nuff. I just wish more people wouldn't criticise what they can't understand. That's why, ceteris paribus, I tend to go with the academic consensus.

[Peter]

Keith Richards is a genius, and I don't use that term lightly. He isn't a beautiful guitar player, but what he plays is beautiful.

I sometimes listen to the videos on youtube of someone playing his guitar lines from Stones songs. I think I like them better than the songs themselves.

Tumbling Dice being my favourite. Honky Tonk Women and Midnight Rambler slightly behind. Genius.

With The Stones it is the groove, for me, particularly Tumbling Dice. They were at their best when Mick Taylor was in the band. That is him playing slide on Tumbling Dice.