Guardiola’s antics for Calafiori’s goal.

[PSRB]

And the incident in the first few seconds. Rodri initiates that himself, walking straight in to Havertz's path, and then collapses. Pathetic.

He's the sort of guy that repeatedly gets you into a mass punch up in Sunday League. Privately, his own team mates breathe a sigh of relief when he's not playing

I always tried to get on with the oppo CB's but yes, we've all had those players in the team.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

In the depsicability stakes they're the new Yanited, imo. Guardiola's got a way to go to catch up with Ferguson mind.

Disagree. MU had a huge financial advantage cos All Seater Stadia meant we went from the big clubs all having c. 60k stadia to the other 4 going down to 35-45k while MU went up to 75k cos they live in a shîthole.

This happened at the same time as the EPL and CL money came in coinciding with their great generation of kids. But this was all legal.

Pep and City have just cheated to get their huge financial advantage and they know it. None of their trophies count while all of ManU's sadly do, even if they came because Bergy missed a pelanty.

I despise City and Amrahamovic's Chelsea more than ManU or Sperz, much as it pains me to admit it.

[Peter]

Disagree. MU had a huge financial advantage cos All Seater Stadia meant we went from the big clubs all having c. 60k stadia to the other 4 going down to 35-45k while MU went up to 75k cos they live in a shîthole.

This happened at the same time as the EPL and CL money came in coinciding with their great generation of kids. But this was all legal.

Pep and City have just cheated to get their huge financial advantage and they know it. None of their trophies count while all of ManU's sadly do, even if they came because Bergy missed a pelanty.

I despise City and Amrahamovic's Chelsea more than ManU or Sperz, much as it pains me to admit it.

On the financial side, you are correct. Although..... lets not forget how United used their financial muscle and relationships with the media (and Sky) to manipulate and intimidate referees. City may know how to work a ref but we are not seeing anything close to the types of outrageous decisions we regularly saw at Old Trafford. And not just the Mike Riley ones

I'll never hate anyone more than Ferguson's United. Never.

[PSRB]

On the financial side, you are correct. Although..... lets not forget how United used their financial muscle and relationships with the media (and Sky) to manipulate and intimidate referees. City may know how to work a ref but we are not seeing anything close to the types of outrageous decisions we regularly saw at Old Trafford. And not just the Mike Riley ones

I'll never hate anyone more than Ferguson's United. Never.

1. spurs - just because
2. United under Ferguson
3. Chelsea - Initiated the ruining of football
4. Citeh - 115 reasons
5. Villa - think they're a much bigger club than they actually are, sooner Emery ****s of elsewhere the better.
6. Newcastle - ****ers, every last one of them.

[redgunamo]

On the financial side, you are correct. Although..... lets not forget how United used their financial muscle and relationships with the media (and Sky) to manipulate and intimidate referees. City may know how to work a ref but we are not seeing anything close to the types of outrageous decisions we regularly saw at Old Trafford. And not just the Mike Riley ones

I'll never hate anyone more than Ferguson's United. Never.

You know very well; for westerners, the East is one giant honey pot.

At least Manchester United's cheating was homespun and homegrown and somehow honest.

[Peter]

1. spurs - just because
2. United under Ferguson
3. Chelsea - Initiated the ruining of football
4. Citeh - 115 reasons
5. Villa - think they're a much bigger club than they actually are, sooner Emery ****s of elsewhere the better.
6. Newcastle - ****ers, every last one of them.

Excellent list. Fully agree re Villa. ****s, and Emery deserves better.

[Peter]

You know very well; for westerners, the East is one giant honey pot.

At least Manchester United's cheating was homespun and homegrown and somehow honest.

Meh. Given the choice I would rather face cheating off the pitch than on it. Better a mob accountant than a bent ref.

[Sir C]

On the financial side, you are correct. Although..... lets not forget how United used their financial muscle and relationships with the media (and Sky) to manipulate and intimidate referees. City may know how to work a ref but we are not seeing anything close to the types of outrageous decisions we regularly saw at Old Trafford. And not just the Mike Riley ones

I'll never hate anyone more than Ferguson's United. Never.

Hear him, hear him!

[Sir C]

1. spurs - just because
2. United under Ferguson
3. Chelsea - Initiated the ruining of football
4. Citeh - 115 reasons
5. Villa - think they're a much bigger club than they actually are, sooner Emery ****s of elsewhere the better.
6. Newcastle - ****ers, every last one of them.

Here is wisdom.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

On the financial side, you are correct. Although..... lets not forget how United used their financial muscle and relationships with the media (and Sky) to manipulate and intimidate referees. City may know how to work a ref but we are not seeing anything close to the types of outrageous decisions we regularly saw at Old Trafford. And not just the Mike Riley ones

I'll never hate anyone more than Ferguson's United. Never.

I agree about Fergie-time etc. But it's the blatant financial doping I can't stand. Everton etc owned up - City just keep trying to cheat. They only got away with being done by Uefa by lying long enough for the charges to no loner stand. And they're trying to just buy loads of lawyers to win this case.

However much you hate the Scousers, Klopp did amazingly with them. No City cheating and he'd be considered by them as up there with Shankley and Paisley. Likewise, with no City cheating, MA would already have 2 titles like GG {him, not me}, and would be going for his third to equal Herbie {the dead won, not ours} and AW with the hope of beating all of them. {Which could, Ganpati willing, still happen.}

It's just blatant cheating.

The other thing is that the EPL is the most exciting league in the world. Who will watch if City become like Munich {11 on the bounce until last season}?

It's a form of financial colonialism that the camel-fückers moaned about when we did it to them.

Get a sport your natives actually like and use your money to grow that into the best in the world like India did with the IPL.

But they don't even play it any more than the Saudis box or play golf. The Qataris fück us all around for their shîtty WC, get it changed at the last minute so only they play on the opening day and yet the stadium empties by half time when they're 2-0 down to the Turks and Caicos islands U13 girls' team.

They're shîtting on well over a century of our sporting, cultural history - support for teams that have been passed down the generations - and on the league that gave football to the planet just to try to buy themselves some 3rd world dictator bling.

I detest them.