As happy as I am that we won a game I am afraid I feel I have to point out

[Burney]

Who? The fat bástard or the Mothercare jew?

The Mothercare Jew sounds like a gangster or a superhero.

[Sir C]

The Mothercare Jew sounds like a gangster or a superhero.

You remember the fellow. Remarkably vicious vocabulary. Had a bet about something with Ian Harvey - the forfiet being he would have to wear a Spurs shirt - lost - welched. You remember?

[Luis Anaconda]

Fat pseudo Lebanese kúnt.

Dom Joly, not you.

That was probably Gilbert Silva wasn't it?

[Luis Anaconda]

The Mothercare Jew sounds like a gangster or a superhero.

Superhero - that would be brilliant. Will sell a lot when Jeremy becomes PM on Friday

[Burney]

You remember the fellow. Remarkably vicious vocabulary. Had a bet about something with Ian Harvey - the forfiet being he would have to wear a Spurs shirt - lost - welched. You remember?

Oh, yes. I think la and his remarkably intact memory are correct - Gilbert Silva.

[Sir C]

That was probably Gilbert Silva wasn't it?

The Mothercare jew? I think you may be right.

He quite upset me you know. He was so... nasty.

[Sir C]

Oh, yes. I think la and his remarkably intact memory are correct - Gilbert Silva.

Jesus, look how my fingers created the word 'forfeit' there.

[redgunamo]

Perhaps just disappointed that our new recent World Cup-winning superstar midfielder was NOT Ronaldinho?

Oh man, our fans HATED him.

I must have heard the witty refrain of "eeee ain't Brazilian!!" about 20 times a game..

[Peter]

It is possible that there may be a Gilberto effect going on with Xaka.

It's kind of forgotten nowadays, but for the first couple of years Gilberto was absolutely hated by most fans, but slowly they began to understand what he did and how important he was.

This may be rose tinted glasses but I don't remember Gilberto constantly giving the ball away. I recall us suggesting he was limited, and he certainly was, but in a good way.

Also, Xhaka has been with us for nearly two and a half seasons and seems to be getting worse.

It isn't entirely his fault. If we want to play out of the back then we need midfielders who will take the ball from the back four. For an hour last night I watched our centre backs endlessly passing to each other while our two midfielders hid, standing next to their markers with no desire to take the ball. Guendouzi was on the field for ten minutes and spent the entire time dropping off into space to take the ball.

If Xhaka isn't going to do this, he is of no real use to us.

[redgunamo]

Can we not knock it?

This may be rose tinted glasses but I don't remember Gilberto constantly giving the ball away. I recall us suggesting he was limited, and he certainly was, but in a good way.

Also, Xhaka has been with us for nearly two and a half seasons and seems to be getting worse.

It isn't entirely his fault. If we want to play out of the back then we need midfielders who will take the ball from the back four. For an hour last night I watched our centre backs endlessly passing to each other while our two midfielders hid, standing next to their markers with no desire to take the ball. Guendouzi was on the field for ten minutes and spent the entire time dropping off into space to take the ball.

If Xhaka isn't going to do this, he is of no real use to us.