In my, happily very occasional, dealings with police officers,

[Burney]

I must say I am distinctly uncomfortable with this whole business.

"Existential threat"? Really?

I fear the Jewishers have over played their hand and are going to end up losing sympathy now.

You've been gaslighted, mate. Can you seriously imagine a situation in which any other minority ethnic group would be told they have to meet their racist abusers half way in order to achieve resolution? Of course not. It would be unthinkable in any other case than anti-semitism - which should tell you that there's something funny going on here. What you're doing here is falling for their attempt to make anti-semitism a special kind of racism that isn't really racism.

[Sir C]

leave it out.

I've seen them documentaries on C5. They'd have had you in a near fatal choke hold the second you reached for your documents.

I wasn't driving a 10 year old Beemer with loud music issuing forth, i.

[SWv2]

they are invariably polite and respectful. Perhaps not supremely intelligent, but then why would an intelligent person choose such a profession? (I speak not of specialist officers such as Morse, Lewis and Hathaway, of course.)

One chap stopped me in my car recently, apologised profusely for doing so, but claimed that his 'system' told him that my car was uninsured. "Obviously," he said, "it must be a mistake," but he was obliged to check. When I reassured him that I did have the requisite insurance cover, he apologised once more and invited me to get on with my day.

As I drovbe off he saluted.

One suspects that if one is polite but firm when dealing with the constabulary, they, like dogs, understand their social position and treat one accordingly.

I have had various dealings with them over the years and always found the Met (and indeed all UK based law enforcement agencies for that matter) to be absolute *****s of the very highest order, the ones in Margate 1994 being especially deserving of this award.

On one occasion I even had the terrible misfortune of socialising with one off-duty and I think he was possibly even more arrogant and rude then.

The RUC were always *****s but this was during the so called Troubles so it was their job to be so.

The Irish ones, An Garda Siochana, are just useless and lazy and quite thick. I expect Sir C will use this to make a sweeping generalisation about all people on this island.

[Peter]

You've been gaslighted, mate. Can you seriously imagine a situation in which any other minority ethnic group would be told they have to meet their racist abusers half way in order to achieve resolution? Of course not. It would be unthinkable in any other case than anti-semitism - which should tell you that there's something funny going on here. What you're doing here is falling for their attempt to make anti-semitism a special kind of racism that isn't really racism.

Well it does have its own word, doesnt it. It IS different from other racisms.....

Naturally, I oppose all racisms, even against nasty people.

[Burney]

Well it does have its own word, doesnt it. It IS different from other racisms.....

Naturally, I oppose all racisms, even against nasty people.

How is it different? Other than having a 2,000 year history, I mean?

[Sir C]

I have had various dealings with them over the years and always found the Met (and indeed all UK based law enforcement agencies for that matter) to be absolute *****s of the very highest order, the ones in Margate 1994 being especially deserving of this award.

On one occasion I even had the terrible misfortune of socialising with one off-duty and I think he was possibly even more arrogant and rude then.

The RUC were always *****s but this was during the so called Troubles so it was their job to be so.

The Irish ones, An Garda Siochana, are just useless and lazy and quite thick. I expect Sir C will use this to make a sweeping generalisation about all people on this island.

One can understand the frustration of police officers in the UK having to deal with immigrants from the third world though, can't you? You no spikka da proper English, can't read or sign a statement, probably carry bizarre diseases... no, I don't fancy it personally.

[Monty92]

You shouldn't be. This is how they get their way. They chip, chip, chip away at accepted norms until the unconscionable view becomes valid and acceptable for debate. They're currently doing it with jewhating and communism. They have recently done it with such matters as men being married to men, or women being married to women - then it was men becoming women by the magical method of simply calling themselves women. Insanity becomes an accepted norm.

In this matter they are assisted by useful idiots such as yourself, of course.

Ok, perhaps I mean I don't feel they've played their hand effectively.

The focus of their argument is that criticism of Israel can too easily slide into anti-semitism and that Corbyn is unwilling to tackle this. This is of course true, but it's also true that, for example, criticism of immigration can often slide into far right racism. Yet our tolerance of criticism of immigration seems to be far higher than it is of criticism of Israel. This to me is an unavoidable double standard.

And yet in Corbyn we have a man who has persistently throughout his life supported and defended people with the most disgusting anti-semitic views. He's also a man who recently sacked an MP for pointing out the fact that child rape gangs in this country have a cultural and ethnic common denominator.

Yet the focus seems to be on that very narrow point about criticism of Israel, rather than the far more damning evidence of Corbyn's dubious character, and that isn't actually going to have any effect.

[Monty92]

You've been gaslighted, mate. Can you seriously imagine a situation in which any other minority ethnic group would be told they have to meet their racist abusers half way in order to achieve resolution? Of course not. It would be unthinkable in any other case than anti-semitism - which should tell you that there's something funny going on here. What you're doing here is falling for their attempt to make anti-semitism a special kind of racism that isn't really racism.

We say that all the time about the Allans. That they should meet people half-way

Anyway, see my reply to Charlie below.

[Peter]

How is it different? Other than having a 2,000 year history, I mean?

Exactly. It pre-dates racism and has its own word.

Naturally, I find it just as appalling as any other form of racism. I find all racism appalling.

I am appalled by it.

[Viva Prat Vegas]

Sir C "No. The insurance company hadn't updated the system when I changed the registration number."

Is it personalised ?