You can always tell armed conflict's in the offing when you see economic illiterate

[Sir C]

I think we've pretty much decided it's not really our business anymore; these foreign military engagements are a tougher sell nowadays and the Donald was elected, in part, to do an awful lot less of it.

I reckon we let the locals handle things. For example, today's Saudi military man is completely unrecognisable from the spoiled, lazy, feckless bunch I dealt with in Desert Storm. They're ready.

A number of their top politicos graduated from Cranwell, apparently.

I must say I'm surprised that they were awarded wings. These people aren't gentlemen, are they?

[PSRB]

tweets/Facebook posts from people saying how much missiles cost and how many homelesses could be put up or nurses or teachers employed with that money, etc, etc.

The fact that those missiles are in many cases designed and built in the UK by companies employing thousands and paying untold millions in UK tax revenues that then get spent on homelesses, nurses, teachers, etc, etc is of course a bit too complicated for their tiny fvcking brains.

It really is amazing how many people still appear to think that capital expenditure at a macro level is a zero sum game.

Quite, my inheritance is intrinsically linked to BAE share price.......

[Peter]

So you're suggesting we ought to not bother, slash defence spending and outsource our defence to the US as if we were Portugal or Ireland, p? This seems an interesting strategy in terms of our international standing, I must say.

No. As you know, I think we should tax people like you up the arse and spend a ****ing fortune on everything but people like you won't vote for that.... so we have to make choices from a limited pot.

I am just pointing out that there are choices while you seem to think we can spend what we fancy on whatever we want.

Our international standing

[Peter]

Quite, my inheritance is intrinsically linked to BAE share price.......

And mine to property prices inLondon. THank god for Russian oligarchs

[redgunamo]

A number of their top politicos graduated from Cranwell, apparently.

I must say I'm surprised that they were awarded wings. These people aren't gentlemen, are they?

I wouldn't be surprised. We simply don't make our own like we used to. They is practically all pooves nowadays, as the man said.

One young redgunamo, some sort of nephew, will probably end up at Sandhurst; he'll be the seventh such (I was the third) and he's definitely not the sort

[Rich]

I think we've pretty much decided it's not really our business anymore; these foreign military engagements are a tougher sell nowadays and the Donald was elected, in part, to do an awful lot less of it.

I reckon we let the locals handle things. For example, today's Saudi military man is completely unrecognisable from the spoiled, lazy, feckless bunch I dealt with in Desert Storm. They're ready.

The Don seems quite keen to get stuck in, though. Surely we can provide some air to air refueling as a token gesture?

[redgunamo]

The Don seems quite keen to get stuck in, though. Surely we can provide some air to air refueling as a token gesture?

That's just banter; he's trolling. We will certainly play an advisory and supporting role though. And not just as a token either.

[Rich]

That's just banter; he's trolling. We will certainly play an advisory and supporting role though. And not just as a token either.

What's redgunamo's prediction, then? No Tomahawks, no fighter jets, no submarines?

[Sir C]

That's just banter; he's trolling. We will certainly play an advisory and supporting role though. And not just as a token either.

I saw a video on youtube of a US Marine attempting a Royal Marine's fitness test. He failed it in the most embarrassing fashion, and looked horrified as he did so.

Useless septics.

[redgunamo]

What's redgunamo's prediction, then? No Tomahawks, no fighter jets, no submarines?

Well, we're clearly the decisive power so we'll act decisively at the right moments. In fact, I'd have to check but I reckon we've been doing that already for some time.

One thing about so called "Mad Dog" Mattis; he does not throw his men's lives away cheaply. As I said the other week, keep an eye on these lads: