Originally Posted by
Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
It took sides on Brexit because it's a bloody stupid idea. Just like they (and Private Eye) would slag of the SNP and the Corbynistas and the Kippers for being jokes, of course the Mash is going to slag off the Brexit cock-ups.
Had we remained, the next big EU cock-up would have seen Mash stories with headlines like "Maybe Farrage had a point, thinks everyone.", wouldn't it?
But you sound rather like one of those Kippers, Scot Nats or Corbynistas Hislop slagged off for ditching their PE subs because they couldn't take it when the joke was on them.
The majority of this country voted for someone telling them they could have their cake and eat it and they could ignore all the experts saying it would be a fiasco cos the country has had enough of experts. So now it's turning out to be a fiasco, of course it's a subject for humour.
If you read the comments below the Times, many Brexiters still seem to think that Europe should be bowing down to us cos we're British, or that if they don't we'll just walk away and it will screw them, not us, and that it's completely unfair that the EU are putting the interests of their 27 member states' voters ahead of ours.
And if this is The Times, I dread to think what they are saying on the Mail.
If the govt of this once great country are so weak that they will allow our economic future to be trashed by a bunch of deluded ideologues, of course the Mash is gonna take the piss.
We have the most useless leadership in the two main parties that I can think of - and I've studied most periods since 1689. Even during Suez, for example, there were many real heavyweights in both parties who could have stepped in and saved things. (Mac did, for the Tories, anyway.)
Yet we invite the biggest political crisis in peacetime history - in part because the right wing press told them that they shouldn't vote against austerity in the election, but it was fine to use the referendum as a protest vote to do just that - with no plan what to do when the vote is leave, and with no politicians on either side capable of solving it.
And even if there were, that would be impossible because the parties (mostly Tories, but also Corbyn) and the voters (mostly Lab as Tory remainers have nowhere to go with Corbyn in charge of Lab) are split down the middle, so our parliamentary representative democracy fails us in the biggest way in our history.
We had coalitions in 1915, 1931 and 1940.
Peel split the Tories over Free Trade with the Corn Law repeal of 1846. Joe Chamberlain split the Libs over Irish Home Rule and then the Tories over free trade vs tariff reform. (And while I oppose JC on both, at least he thought what he was doing was in the genuine interests of the majority of the population as opposed to some personal obsession.)
But in both cases, the parties could split, reshape and reform.
Yet we don't have the heavyweights on either side to put country before party and to split the parties to save the country. We need a realignment but these 650 weaklings are putting their careers first.
So when we have such a big **** up, you really think they shouldn't take the piss simply because you personally are in favour of the **** up? We risk destroying our prosperity for good.
And when that happens, B, you'll have one half of the country knowing it was all the fault of the other half.
And the Brexit half, will they blame themselves? Or will they listen to some right wing populist and the press say that they have been stabbed in the back by traitors?
I know it's never happened here - one reason why we think ourselves superior to Jonny Continental - but do you really think that means it couldn't? Are we really immune to civil strife and extremism?
This isn't a crash affecting the whole world. Or imposed by a hostile power after defeat in war. And there won't be a way of recovering the prosperity we have simply thrown away. This will be knowing that GB alone will suffer, with no hope of recovery, because of how a small majority of the population voted - thinking that they could have their cake and eat it because we really are so much better to foreigners.
Yet you don't think the Mash should be taking the piss? When the country's on the brink of civil war between the party that wants the Brexit voters to take the biggest hit and some far right populists supported by the Mail banging on about Dolchstoß and traitors, I hope you don't think the Mash should remain quiet on that, too.