Do people not realise that every time Trump is thwarted by judges his grip on power

[Peter]

Soothing platitudes, but meaningless, Peter. The cycle of perpetual war and chaos for which Clinton was a continuity candidate was bad enough. Trump might well have his own conflicts, but at least we're not guarranteed this, as we are with, basically, any mainstream president. With Clinton there was a real menace of something even worse than the routine neocon-libhawk wars (direct and proxy).

Can we just clarify something here. You seem to have me down as a Hilary apologist.

Trust me, I would have come very, very close to voting for Trump myself....

[World's End Stella]

.. With honourable exceptions, of course.

Very honourable

Bob

[Peter]

That's the thing, though. He's living proof that there is - which is one of the reasons he's so very hated.

He is unique. There wont be another alternative. This alternative seems to involve being a **** on twitter....

[World's End Stella]

If only I had said more or less the same thing

Like I'd read anything you post

[Peter]

How very isolationist of you p. Did you follow the unspoken wishes of your leader Jeremy and vote leave?

What can I say? I don't like them. They talk funny, they refer to the EPL and they elect a bloke who refers to them as 'folks'.....

This really wont do.

[Luis Anaconda]

Like I'd read anything you post

fair point

[Ash]

Can we just clarify something here. You seem to have me down as a Hilary apologist.

Trust me, I would have come very, very close to voting for Trump myself....

Fair do's, Pedro.

[Peter]

Fair do's, Pedro.

AND....as much as I hate him if he brings a swathe of manufacturing jobs to the rust belt (without destroying the world) even I will hail him as a great President.

[Sir C]

AND....as much as I hate him if he brings a swathe of manufacturing jobs to the rust belt (without destroying the world) even I will hail him as a great President.

If he did that Bruce would have nothing to mither on about.

[redgunamo]

Because he is a ****ing egotistical loon. Blair made a bad call at the wrong moment and **** me he has been punished for it.

You know as well as I do that the first thing one requires of a political leader is the ability to take advice and to seek it from the right places. Can you honestly say that Trump fills you with confidence on that score?

He has surrounded himself with a bunch of men and women who have taken both him and his candidacy about a million miles further than anybody else believed was remotely possible. At this point, what more do you want