Do people not realise that every time Trump is thwarted by judges his grip on power

[Luis Anaconda]

Not always, see Robert S McNamara

You leave Uncle Bobby out of this

[redgunamo]

The only sensible wars are ones with clear aims that you can win without things dragging on for years. So:

The Falklands = sensible war
Gulf War 1 = sensible war
Gulf War 2 = bad war

Gulf War 2 made me though so I think it's wrong for everyone to be so critical.

[Ash]

Sensible wars (the ones the military are happy to fight) are fine. Its the bad wars you need to worry about.

Soothing platitudes, but meaningless, Peter. The cycle of perpetual war and chaos for which Clinton was a continuity candidate was bad enough. Trump might well have his own conflicts, but at least we're not guarranteed this, as we are with, basically, any mainstream president. With Clinton there was a real menace of something even worse than the routine neocon-libhawk wars (direct and proxy).

[Burney]

Gulf War 2 made me though so I think it's wrong for everyone to be so critical.

Well that's the trick, isn't it? Get into a position whereby you win whoever wins.

[Sir C]

Well that's the trick, isn't it? Get into a position whereby you win whoever wins.

You think he had a fallback position working for the Republican Guard?

[Burney]

You think he had a fallback position working for the Republican Guard?

I wouldn't put it past him. I'm sure he'd have looked lovely with a moustache.

[redgunamo]

Well that's the trick, isn't it? Get into a position whereby you win whoever wins.

Right. The key life question must always be, what's in it for *me*. It just mustn't look like it.

I tell all the young lads nowadays*.



*Not like that.

[Luis Anaconda]

Yes. I rather like the fellow. Well not 'like' exactly, since he's obviously a thoroughgoing arse. But I do actually think he's probably a good thing in general, giving the lie as he does to the 'There is no alternative' crowd.

hmm - the most positive thing I took out of him winning was that the alternative was four years of Hillary and then a true right-wing bible-bashing automaton like Pence would win in 2020 - or someone like Cruz could have run against HC and win. Time for the Democrats to find a better alternative - although it seems like they've ditched the Clintons and are looking down the Kennedy route again

[Luis Anaconda]

The only sensible wars are ones with clear aims that you can win without things dragging on for years. So:

The Falklands = sensible war
Gulf War 1 = sensible war
Gulf War 2 = bad war

Sensible conflict, b, for a, please

[Peter]

I'm sorry for the whataboutery, but how can he be considered "scary" for people who supported, say, Tony Blair? Surely all the scrutiny Trump is subject to greatly reduces his capacity for scariness, as certainly wouldn't have been the case for Hillary Clinton.

You *must* see how that (your) view comes across as less than serious, in this context?

Because he is a ****ing egotistical loon. Blair made a bad call at the wrong moment and **** me he has been punished for it.

You know as well as I do that the first thing one requires of a political leader is the ability to take advice and to seek it from the right places. Can you honestly say that Trump fills you with confidence on that score?