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Thread: I tell you what Clive, if I was a jewish I'd be feeling a trifle nervous right now.

  1. #41
    The Jorge
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    Well one local councillor from North Leeds said it was all *******s this week, if that helps.

  2. #42
    Apologies, Dr H - you are correct. Prevalent was too strong a word

    Couldn't agree more with the second point as well

  3. #43
    The Jorge
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    I think we can rule that out under "whataboutery"

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda View Post
    I'm not agreeing with what Sir C says, merely pointing out that you (he) are still presenting silly rebuttals which hardly help the issue. Lots of slave owners gave work to lots of black people so they definitely aren't racist then. Didn't Nigel Farage marry a foreigner - bang goes the Xenophobia accusations against UKIP
    Donald and Ivana Trump

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Headgear - Wannabe viking View Post
    No, no point scoring going on when Cameron, in parliament, starts pointing out the people Khan has associated with, while neglecting to mention that his own candidate for London Mayor was actively petitioning on his behalf.

    Interesting to see you can agree with Jones occasionally though.

    Yes, there is a problem with anti semitism, yes it does exist on the left, but let's not pretend it's somehow ideologically isolated there.
    I'm not pretending anything. I'm just suggesting that, were I jewish, I would be concerned at the possibility of a Labour election win

  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Headgear - Wannabe viking View Post
    Not denying it exists, but prevalent is a bit strong.

    There's also something massively unappealing about some of the finger pointing, lots of pot calling the kettle black.
    http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...-jeremy-corbyn

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36034657

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...you-should-too

    And that's just for starters. So the question is this: if so many prominent Labour-supporting Jews are seeing this as a growing problem, why are the likes of you and Jorge so ready to deny it?

  7. #47
    And were I Jewish, I'd be surprised and amazed at the sudden sensitivity of the Conservative party to my fears.

  8. #48
    The Jorge
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    Come on, it's not like they spent the last election laughing at a jewish guy trying to eat a bacon sandwich or anything

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Headgear - Wannabe viking View Post
    And were I Jewish, I'd be surprised and amazed at the sudden sensitivity of the Conservative party to my fears.
    Who the hell is talking about the Conservative party? Are you accusing me of being a spokesman for the Conservativbe party, or is this a standard 'chuck in a reference to something completely irrelevant' to obfuscate the issue?

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Headgear - Wannabe viking View Post
    And were I Jewish, I'd be surprised and amazed at the sudden sensitivity of the Conservative party to my fears.
    Really? Why? Jews have long been intrinsic to the Conservative Party. We had a Jewish PM in the 19th century and Mrs T was MP for Finchley and surrounded herself with Jews in cabinet and other senior positions - not least because she felt the virtues of the Jewish people perfectly embodied modern Tory values.

    So if you're going for the 'Tories are anti-semites' line, I'm afraid that dog simply won't hunt.

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