I wonder if the blame for the patchy home form is going to be put squarely on

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

Blame? No.A contributor? Yes.

Wasn't our home record a lot better last season?

[reg]

We can only be said to have escaped it if you believe that this team has performed to the utmost of its ability and that fourth is the best it could have expected.

But I don't think that is your argument, is it? You believe we have underperformed and refuse to accept that the poisonous behaviour of our supporters may be any sort of factor in that underperformance on the grounds that professionals shouldn't allow the fact that the people who are supposed to be on their side are instead consistently booing them. And if you refuse to accept that, the logic dictates that you don't believe there is or should be such a thing as home advantage.

Effectively, you are arguing that among professionals, there should be no such thing as morale. You seem to think that anyone getting paid to do a job will do the job the same way regardless of human factors. I would have thought you of all people would understand the importance of morale to performance.

Regardless of expectations, we have done alright. Could've done better, could've done alot worse. Don't forget that I am firmly in the "we need to buy a fifty million pound striker" camp so my own hopes for us are always adjusted accordingly.

As I say, we can still win the title. You know, despite half the season's matches being subject to the "poisonous behaviour of our supporters". What do you imagine Leicester City's fans were like last season as they played their way towards relegation? Did they change out the whole thirty thousand of them for this term (although, I did read an amusing tale about one poor chap there who, after many years, finally allowed his wife to persuade him to give up his season ticket last Summer)?

No, getting paid and results is the most important thing. You do your job, they pay you for that and also to do it again tomorrow; no problem. That's being a professional. Morale is simply a term used when dealing with folk from outside, to be polite, if and when necessary. An excuse. It's nothing to do with the truth, but simply we supporters feel better if the players and staff at least pretend to care about how we feel, good or bad.

[Sir C]

Regardless of expectations, we have done alright. Could've done better, could've done alot worse. Don't forget that I am firmly in the "we need to buy a fifty million pound striker" camp so my own hopes for us are always adjusted accordingly.

As I say, we can still win the title. You know, despite half the season's matches being subject to the "poisonous behaviour of our supporters". What do you imagine Leicester City's fans were like last season as they played their way towards relegation? Did they change out the whole thirty thousand of them for this term (although, I did read an amusing tale about one poor chap there who, after many years, finally allowed his wife to persuade him to give up his season ticket last Summer)?

No, getting paid and results is the most important thing. You do your job, they pay you for that and also to do it again tomorrow; no problem. That's being a professional. Morale is simply a term used when dealing with folk from outside, to be polite, if and when necessary. An excuse. It's nothing to do with the truth, but simply we supporters feel better if the players and staff at least pretend to care about how we feel, good or bad.

Give it up, dude. He's done you like a kipper here.

[TheCurly]

Wasn't our home record a lot better last season?

Yes.However,we were never going to win it last year.The fact we could have and not capitalised on it this year seems to have turned some supporters moaning into a lot of supporters moaning.

[Ash]

...refuse to accept that the poisonous behaviour of our supporters may be any sort of factor in that underperformance

Lumping all our supporters together and calling them all poisonous is reductive and an over-statement. As an witness to events I would say that apathy and resignation are more prevalent feelings than toxicity. None of us know how much an effect the crowd has either way. 1%, 2%, 5%? Of course every bit helps, but systematically blaming the crowd with exaggerated rhetoric while the club's staff keep ****ing up their jobs seems wrong to me.

Also there is the false assumption that Arsenal are uniquely bad. It's like Jorge's hate for his country, assuming we are the worst and everyone else is better.

I don't know why I bother saying this tbh. It just goes round in circles.

[reg]

Give it up, dude. He's done you like a kipper here.

Not at all. You can see it for yourself; would you rather get booed or go unpaid?

And if you get paid, who cares about the booing

[reg]

Lumping all our supporters together and calling them all poisonous is reductive and an over-statement. As an witness to events I would say that apathy and resignation are more prevalent feelings than toxicity. None of us know how much an affect the crowd has either way. 1%, 2%, 5%? Of course every bit helps, but systematically blaming the crowd with exaggerated rhetoric while the club's staff keep ****ing up their jobs seems wrong to me.

Also there is the false assumption that Arsenal are uniquely bad. It's like Jorge's hate for his country, assuming we are the worst and everyone else is better.

I don't know why I bother saying this tbh. It just goes round in circles.

That's my sons they're talking about

[Ash]

That's my sons they're talking about

And your hard-earned readies to pay for tickets and travel. And another thing, the sack-the-fans brigade never acknowledge the crowd when things have gone well, while fans have been heartily blasting out numbers of support such as "Good old Arsenal!" and "the greatest team the world has ever seen", which is pretty damned generous I'd have thought for a mob that aren't even the greatest team in North London any more.

[reg]

And your hard-earned readies to pay for tickets and travel. And another thing, the sack-the-fans brigade never acknowledge the crowd when things have gone well, while fans have been heartily blasting out numbers of support such as "Good old Arsenal!" and "the greatest team the world has ever seen", which is pretty damned generous I'd have thought for a mob that aren't even the greatest team in North London any more.

:indifferent:

[Alberto Balsam Rodriguez]

Looks like Wenger was reading this