Quote Originally Posted by redgunamo View Post
I'm not so sure. There hardly seems any point a society being so sophisticated and "moral" that it cannot reproduce anymore, even to the point that hordes of the very savages that enjoy these atavistic pleasures (like me, for instance) must be drafted in to make up the shortfall.

At least their cultural and societal mores have proven viable over a decent stretch of time.

Some German politico stated the other day that soon there will inevitably be a local version of Sharia law. So what was the point of it all then.
If you were to argue that on our road to civilisation we may have thrown some babies out with the bathwater, I might agree. However, think stabbing bulls for fun is pretty much indefensible.