So with the league all but over, let's switch to another subject - Jeffrey Epstein?

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is it just me or have some people lost their perspective a little?

As abhorrent as he may have been, surely having contact with an abhorrent cretin is not illegal? And speaking of abhorrent, the former prince is by all accounts an entitled c*nt of the highest order, but that is also not illegal.

I see the latest evidence shows an email in which Epstein suggests he have dinner with a 25 year old Russian woman. And a few pics of him on the floor next to another woman whose age we do not know, both fully clothed.

This is starting to get a little to metoo for my taste, if I'm honest. He's dead, and good riddance, but that hardly means that everyone who ever knew him is a criminal.

Just watched today's PMQs. Starmer is a dead man walking, Shirley..?

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Just watched today's PMQs. Starmer is a dead man walking, Shirley..?

He's been that way for a while, hasn't he. This may be his punishment, his penance.

There's a lot of it going about as nobody wants any more war and how else do you break all this extremely troubling news to the public without a meltdown.

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He's been that way for a while, hasn't he. This may be his punishment, his penance.

There's a lot of it going about as nobody wants any more war and how else do you break all this extremely troubling news to the public without a meltdown.

Just came in and (accidentally) watched Question Time.

:shudder:

He's gone soon.

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I think you've totally missed the point of the '60s, C.

Religion had been in sharp decline in the west, certainly in GB, since WW1. We could accept a God who gave us an empire but not one who killed half the seed of Europe one by one in the trenches.

Seance mysticism replaced the CoE post-war as mothers tried to contact their dead sons' spirits.

By post WW2, the CofE was basically not much more than the Tory party at prayer.

Then the '60s came along and we invented the hippy scene with the Beatles going to India and showing that real religion is Vedic and you don't need holy books and priests, you smoke puff like the sadhus and/or bosh acid and Commune with the Divine yourself.

Hippies didn't reject religion, we reinvented it in the west in the same way Rastafarianism did for the blacks in the Carib and then here.

Pwoppa religions, see? God doesn't want you to just have a tiny sip of cheap wine on a Sunday, He wants you to get off your tits all the time the better to know Him.

There was no point to "The Sixties". Everyone there, the whole bunch of them, sold out.