The group stage may well be a bit of a dull slog designed to satisfy sponsors, but you still end up at a point where you're watching the best teams in Europe play each other on balmy spring evenings, and, to be blunt, if you don't enjoy that, you simply don't like football.
"Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.
"But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."