I haven't particularly followed the Julian Assange rape story

[Monty92]

You see, I reject that 'scum of the earth' thing. I don't know a man whose sexual record is morally spotless. We've all taken advantage of situations to get our ends away - be it going to bed with a drunk woman (not incapable, of course, but far from sober), catching someone who might be emotionally vulnerable in some way due to being on the rebound or homesick or just feeling a bit down and in need of an ego boost for whatever reason.

Are those things sexually exploitative? Only if you start from the premise that the woman has no agency in the liaison and is merely a passive victim of male cunning and lust. That premise is, if you ask me, total balls. The woman is exploiting the situation for her own ends just as much as the man. I therefore utterly reject the concept that being prepared to legitimately exploit a situation for one's sexual or emotional gratification makes one in any way more likely to commit rape.

No,I was saying that *actual* rapists are scum of the earth. I was basically making exactly the same points you've just made.

[Burney]

No,I was saying that *actual* rapists are scum of the earth. I was basically making exactly the same points you've just made.

Sorry, I wasn't taking issue with your point, merely with the deliberate and heavy implications of her article, which seeks to make a link where none exists.

[Monty92]

Surprisingly I haven't really looked into this and formed my own story from some gossip I heard.

Isn't the charge she said said no halfway through and he did an extra thrust?
Or is that a different story?

Bit like when you fell unconscious in the hot tub.

Also, the woman I f*cked who was probably a man. That was surely rape too?

I've been raped twice

[Ash]

You see, I reject that 'scum of the earth' thing. I don't know a man whose sexual record is morally spotless. We've all taken advantage of situations to get our ends away - be it going to bed with a drunk woman (not incapable, of course, but far from sober), catching someone who might be emotionally vulnerable in some way due to being on the rebound or homesick or just feeling a bit down and in need of an ego boost for whatever reason.

Are those things sexually exploitative? Only if you start from the premise that the woman has no agency in the liaison and is merely a passive victim of male cunning and lust. That premise is, if you ask me, total balls. The woman is exploiting the situation for her own ends just as much as the man. I therefore utterly reject the concept that being prepared to legitimately exploit a situation for one's sexual or emotional gratification makes one in any way more likely to commit rape.

And by denying women agency in such situations it surely demeans them as pathetic creatures incapable of making decisions and being treated as an independent adult. This seems obvious yet the victim-culture version of feminism overlooks it in favour of treating women as mentally-inferior and needing special protection.

[redgunamo]

And by denying women agency in such situations it surely demeans them as pathetic creatures incapable of making decisions and being treated as an independent adult. This seems obvious yet the victim-culture version of feminism overlooks it in favour of treating women as mentally-inferior and needing special protection.

Of course, because for them it's all about resentment, rather than compassion or anything.