Recent "analysis" spoke of something called an "inverted midfielder".

[redgunamo]

I found this troubling and confusing and, above all, sad. Has football actually disappeared up its own arse at last

[7sisters]

Is this similar to inverted nipples in any way ?

[redgunamo]

Is this similar to inverted nipples in any way ?

Dunno. Does sound about as much use though.

[Sir C]

Dunno. Does sound about as much use though.

This nonsense started with ‘holding midfielder’ and ‘defensive midfielder’ imo. A midfielder is supposed to be a, y’know, midfielder.

[Luis Anaconda]

This nonsense started with ‘holding midfielder’ and ‘defensive midfielder’ imo. A midfielder is supposed to be a, y’know, midfielder.

I've been saying that for years

[7sisters]

I've been saying that for years

And don?t get me started on pre assists. I?ve notice this new phrase of stato w@nkery entering the fray.

[Peter]

And don?t get me started on pre assists. I?ve notice this new phrase of stato w@nkery entering the fray.

The modern obsession with data, I'm afraid. If you can't quantify it, it didn't happen.

I never watched Dennis Bergkamp and thought 'wow, this guy must have some serious stats'.....

[Luis Anaconda]

The modern obsession with data, I'm afraid. If you can't quantify it, it didn't happen.

I never watched Dennis Bergkamp and thought 'wow, this guy must have some serious stats'.....

I hate the obsession with the terminology (pre-assists as 7 rightly points out is among the worst) but recognition of players who don't necessarily play the final pass is important - Hleb was a wonderful example of this

[Peter]

I hate the obsession with the terminology (pre-assists as 7 rightly points out is among the worst) but recognition of players who don't necessarily play the final pass is important - Hleb was a wonderful example of this

Very true. The 'key pass'. Hleb was a very good player with diabolical stats. To see if he was any good you had to actually watch him play.

Same was apparently true of Alex James. Hope so, because his stats are ****ing ****e

[Luis Anaconda]

Very true. The 'key pass'. Hleb was a very good player with diabolical stats. To see if he was any good you had to actually watch him play.

Same was apparently true of Alex James. Hope so, because his stats are ****ing ****e

Yes - when he scored in the 1930 Cup final it was considered a surprise because he played so deep