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Thread: I'm not convinced on the need for a striker this summer

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    I'm not convinced on the need for a striker this summer

    Firstly, we lead the league in goals scored, not convinced at all the an out and out no. 9 would result in more goals (sorry red).

    Secondly, if you assume that Rice's best position is further forward in midfield, then there is no room in midfield for Havertz so that means he has to start in the false 9 position where he has been excellent.

    I can see us improving next year by having (hopefully) a full year of Timber at LB, by buying a wide attacking player that is an improvement on Trossard/Martinelli (also providing more depth there) and by a very young team being a year older.

    That should be enough imo.

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by WES View Post
    Firstly, we lead the league in goals scored, not convinced at all the an out and out no. 9 would result in more goals (sorry red).

    Secondly, if you assume that Rice's best position is further forward in midfield, then there is no room in midfield for Havertz so that means he has to start in the false 9 position where he has been excellent.

    I can see us improving next year by having (hopefully) a full year of Timber at LB, by buying a wide attacking player that is an improvement on Trossard/Martinelli (also providing more depth there) and by a very young team being a year older.

    That should be enough imo.
    A proper striker would be nice, although as I've said many times, I'd like to see Martinelli given a go. Loads of pace, good finisher, could do the job everyone wants us to pay a fortune for Isak for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WES View Post
    Firstly, we lead the league in goals scored, not convinced at all the an out and out no. 9 would result in more goals (sorry red).

    Secondly, if you assume that Rice's best position is further forward in midfield, then there is no room in midfield for Havertz so that means he has to start in the false 9 position where he has been excellent.

    I can see us improving next year by having (hopefully) a full year of Timber at LB, by buying a wide attacking player that is an improvement on Trossard/Martinelli (also providing more depth there) and by a very young team being a year older.

    That should be enough imo.
    I hate to say it but I agree with you

    I think we need a realistic option to cover Saka (one Arteta is actually willing to use) and another midfielder. And you would expect Ramsdale to leave, meaning we will need a number 2 keeper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSRB View Post
    A proper striker would be nice, although as I've said many times, I'd like to see Martinelli given a go. Loads of pace, good finisher, could do the job everyone wants us to pay a fortune for Isak for.
    The issue with Martinelli is whether his game with his back to goal is good enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WES View Post
    Firstly, we lead the league in goals scored, not convinced at all the an out and out no. 9 would result in more goals (sorry red).

    Secondly, if you assume that Rice's best position is further forward in midfield, then there is no room in midfield for Havertz so that means he has to start in the false 9 position where he has been excellent.

    I can see us improving next year by having (hopefully) a full year of Timber at LB, by buying a wide attacking player that is an improvement on Trossard/Martinelli (also providing more depth there) and by a very young team being a year older.

    That should be enough imo.
    Maybe not first-choice but a decent option off the bench would be nice

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    I hate to say it but I agree with you

    I think we need a realistic option to cover Saka (one Arteta is actually willing to use) and another midfielder. And you would expect Ramsdale to leave, meaning we will need a number 2 keeper.
    Yes, a new keeper to replace Ramsdale, a new DM option to replace Partey if he leaves and because both Jorginho and Partey are the wrong side of 30, and another attacking option would be fine.

    We have depth all over the pitch but they have to improve enough that Arteta will start using them. Odegaard is a good example. He plays too much because Arteta still doesn't seem to trust ESR or Vieira enough. But if you tried to buy someone to provide depth, it might be hard to find someone better than those two who would be willing to be 2nd choice.

    Goes back to my point about the team improving just by being a year older, it has to happen.

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda View Post
    Maybe not first-choice but a decent option off the bench would be nice
    I think the future of Jesus and Zinchenko may well be up for discussion this summer.

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda View Post
    Maybe not first-choice but a decent option off the bench would be nice
    Jesus is currently a good option off the bench. Eddie less so. If you mean an option off the bench who is a natural finisher/poacher then I would agree. Not sure how easily you find someone like that who can play at our level but is content to not be in the first 11.

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by WES View Post
    Yes, a new keeper to replace Ramsdale, a new DM option to replace Partey if he leaves and because both Jorginho and Partey are the wrong side of 30, and another attacking option would be fine.

    We have depth all over the pitch but they have to improve enough that Arteta will start using them. Odegaard is a good example. He plays too much because Arteta still doesn't seem to trust ESR or Vieira enough. But if you tried to buy someone to provide depth, it might be hard to find someone better than those two who would be willing to be 2nd choice.

    Goes back to my point about the team improving just by being a year older, it has to happen.
    Trouble with Odegaard is he is always going to play when fit. He isn't just the fulcrum of our possession and captain, he is also the lead point in the high press, the organising pivot. You are talking about being able to rest him about 4 or 5 times a year, at key points.

    Same with Saka to an extent. But as you say, if he isn't going to use Smith Rowe and Nelson, there isn't much point in keeping them.

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by WES View Post
    Firstly, we lead the league in goals scored, not convinced at all the an out and out no. 9 would result in more goals (sorry red).

    Secondly, if you assume that Rice's best position is further forward in midfield, then there is no room in midfield for Havertz so that means he has to start in the false 9 position where he has been excellent.

    I can see us improving next year by having (hopefully) a full year of Timber at LB, by buying a wide attacking player that is an improvement on Trossard/Martinelli (also providing more depth there) and by a very young team being a year older.

    That should be enough imo.
    Agree with every word.

    Without throwing hundreds of millions of pounds at the position and perhaps most notably, NOT accruing dozens of FFP Rules violations charges, the boss has arrived at a brilliant solution.
    "Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.

    "But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."

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