Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
It is odd, because I don't pay much attention to England. They have performed pretty well in tournaments yet still Southgate is routinely derided as an idiot.

At the Euros they came as close to winning a tournament as you can. Pity the players bottled taking a penalty and left it to kids and subs.
He's never been a popular choice though as many, with some justification, believe him to be an out-of-his-depth yes-man who ought to have no business leading such a great crop of players. Not even sure if actually winning the Euros would've helped; people would simply have demanded the World Cup on top as a bare minimum. (The kids taking penalties-thing was actually smart; they had no baggage).

Similar situation to Jogi Löw with Germany; they hardly left the tournament podium in a decade but his critics still felt he was a failure, that he should actually have won them all.