If Stan Kroenke looks at Twitter and sees #kroenkeout trending, he will definitely throw up his hands in horror and place his billion dollar business on the market immediately. In fact he'll probably take 50 quid for it for a quick sale.
I might make a bid, just as soon as Curly sends me the proceeds from that postal order he's waiting for.
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One of the worst things about this thing going pop is that it'll embolden the more strident type of idiot fan into believing their own hype about fan power and they're going to be insufferable now.Originally Posted by Sir C
Whereas in fact what seems to have happened is that these people decided to announce the Super League with absolutely no plan for what to do when it went down like a lead balloon and the leagues, UEFA and FIFA, governments, etc started making threats. I mean it is almost unbelievable that anyone would make a business decision of this magnitude without a credible plan, but that does appear to be what has happened.
I knew you'd hate this and would drag out your 'supporters are clueless scum with no power whatsoever' soapbox.
The plan had nothing to do with it, the issue was that there were simply too many participants who weren't that committed especially when the local associations and supporters pushed back. There is no plan that would mitigate that risk, they simply had to hope that it wouldn't happen. The mistake was misreading the commitment of the participants, not the lack of a plan.
And the reality is that a lot of the participants really do care about the views of the local associations and the supporters. No matter how much you hate it.
hear it coming half a mile away - rather like when a neighbour wheels out their mixed recycling at 1.00 in the morning.I knew you'd hate this and would drag out your 'supporters are clueless scum with no power whatsoever' soapbox.
Utter bullshít from start to finish. What killed it was the pushback from players threatened with exclusion from their domestic leagues and national teams. The fans just don't matter.I knew you'd hate this and would drag out your 'supporters are clueless scum with no power whatsoever' soapbox.
The plan had nothing to do with it, the issue was that there were simply too many participants who weren't that committed especially when the local associations and supporters pushed back. There is no plan that would mitigate that risk, they simply had to hope that it wouldn't happen. The mistake was misreading the commitment of the participants, not the lack of a plan.
And the reality is that a lot of the participants really do care about the views of the local associations and the supporters. No matter how much you hate it.
This sums up the reality rather well.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...mpression=true
Well it's hardly surprising that you aren't giving up your soapbox easily.
Pretty much everyone I have read since the ESL fell apart accepts that the 12 clubs had completely misread the situation, it had nothing to do with not having a plan. They underestimated the amount of pushback from the associations, UEFA, the supporters, the players and the media. They also underestimated how little resolve many of the clubs had to going through with it. And the idea that the supporter pushback had no influence on any of the other parties involved is absurd, the answer is far more nuanced than simply 'the owners decided and they don't care about what anyone thinks'.
Mind you, if you liked nuanced arguments you wouldn't be so obsessed with the 'working class people are uneducated scum with no power whatsoever and quite rightly so' argument you routinely drag out.
And I love you justifying your misanthropic, single minded view by quoting Rod Liddle, who pretty much defines that particular genre.
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The idea that there was no planning is particularly fvcking moronic. Even JPM put some yards into this.Well it's hardly surprising that you aren't giving up your soapbox easily.
Pretty much everyone I have read since the ESL fell apart accepts that the 12 clubs had completely misread the situation, it had nothing to do with not having a plan. They underestimated the amount of pushback from the associations, UEFA, the supporters, the players and the media. They also underestimated how little resolve many of the clubs had to going through with it. And the idea that the supporter pushback had no influence on any of the other parties involved is absurd, the answer is far more nuanced than simply 'the owners decided and they don't care about what anyone thinks'.
Mind you, if you liked nuanced arguments you wouldn't be so obsessed with the 'working class people are uneducated scum with no power whatsoever and quite rightly so' argument you routinely drag out.
And I love you justifying your misanthropic, single minded view by quoting Rod Liddle, who pretty much defines that particular genre.
Well spotted. I have taken particular delight in stupendously idiotic decisions made by the corporate world and this is one of them. Why would they decide to take that course of action, you ask? Zoom meetings.
As humans we are conditioned to 'read the room' with over half of our information from non-verbal tells. It's done unconsciously. This is 100% absent from Zoom meetings. Add the fact that the mute button masks many verbal signals and you have a recipe for decision-making disaster, which is what we have witnessed this week in Soccerball Land.
I thought you were going to say we will win it
"Plenty of strikers can score goals," he said, gesturing to the famous old stands casting shadows around us.
"But a lot have found it difficult wearing the number 9 shirt for The Arsenal."
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