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    A few questions

    is PPE flavour of the moment?
    Last week it was moaning about people going to beaches.

    Has there been any actual images from a UK hospital in crisis? Like the scenes you see in Italy and Spain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pat Vegas View Post
    is PPE flavour of the moment?
    Last week it was moaning about people going to beaches.

    Has there been any actual images from a UK hospital in crisis? Like the scenes you see in Italy and Spain?
    Apparently, only left-wing-activist-type clinical workers are witnessing a 'dangerous lack of PPE'.
    “Other clubs never came into my thoughts once I knew Arsenal wanted to sign me.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pat Vegas View Post
    is PPE flavour of the moment?
    Last week it was moaning about people going to beaches.

    Has there been any actual images from a UK hospital in crisis? Like the scenes you see in Italy and Spain?
    Plenty of PPE available unless you’re a Labour member, apparently. In which case you suffer miraculous PPE blindness.

    There are plenty of ICU beds available and A&E is empty.

    The only real downside is all the cancer patients dying unnecessarily because their operations have been cancelled. But obviously it’s worth a few extra deaths so we can all have a massive panic for no good reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    Plenty of PPE available unless you’re a Labour member, apparently. In which case you suffer miraculous PPE blindness.

    There are plenty of ICU beds available and A&E is empty.

    The only real downside is all the cancer patients dying unnecessarily because their operations have been cancelled. But obviously it’s worth a few extra deaths so we can all have a massive panic for no good reason.
    Getting bored of all this now.

    I read more people died in Italy last year Jan to March than this year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pat Vegas View Post
    Getting bored of all this now.

    I read more people died in Italy last year Jan to March than this year
    In fairness this didn’t really get started until March, did it? I suspect when you add April numbers in it will look a bit different. Still, it’s a few thousand (tragic) extra deads. It’s not a ****in apocalypse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir C View Post
    In fairness this didn’t really get started until March, did it? I suspect when you add April numbers in it will look a bit different. Still, it’s a few thousand (tragic) extra deads. It’s not a ****in apocalypse.
    Nah it also included part of April too. And it was
    Still higher I need to find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pat Vegas View Post
    Getting bored of all this now.

    I read more people died in Italy last year Jan to March than this year
    https://www.euromomo.eu/

    “Other clubs never came into my thoughts once I knew Arsenal wanted to sign me.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pat Vegas View Post
    Getting bored of all this now.

    I read more people died in Italy last year Jan to March than this year
    What we will never know is how many more people would have died if the measures that have been put in place hadn't been actioned. It almost certainly has stopped the NHS breaking. There obviously is a lack of PPE getting to the front line and mistakes have obviously been made. But as usual it is turned into a political thread.
    Northern Monkey ... who can't upload a bleeding Avatar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pat Vegas View Post
    Getting bored of all this now.

    I read more people died in Italy last year Jan to March than this year
    Right, well the ONS data for the week ending 3 April show 6,000+ deaths over the five-year average, f. What do you reckon that was about, then?

    By all means argue that the lockdown may not be the best plan (God knows, I have), but let's not try and pretend that this disease isn't killing relatively large numbers of people over and above the norm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Right, well the ONS data for the week ending 3 April show 6,000+ deaths over the five-year average, f. What do you reckon that was about, then?

    By all means argue that the lockdown may not be the best plan (God knows, I have), but let's not try and pretend that this disease isn't killing relatively large numbers of people over and above the norm.
    Absoultely it's definately killing lots of people. and it's horrendous.

    But there are some strange things going on, Not to be a conspiracy nut. I just hope all deaths are being correctly recorded.

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