In Dubai, it seems Mikel taught them how to point to each other, showing where they

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

Which loony was it who suggested that Corbyn should be shadow foreign secretary?

They are actually mnetally ill. They must be.

They are. We need to get Momentum and the Unions out of the party. They no longer live in the real world. "The exit poll must be wrong because everyone I know loves Jeremy."

[Burney]

I just don't get all the pandering to trannies, etc. They make up about 0.4% of population and will clearly all vote for the Green party anyway

Because pretending women can have cocks has become the go-to way of differentiating yourself as one of the good guys. It's the inevitable result of a race to the bottom among the woker-than-thou. In order to prove your credentials, you eventually have to deny demonstrable scientific fact.

[Sir C]

I know.

I've tried to explain to them that Mr Attlee chose partnership with democracies (incl. Septics) over fellow socialists, and that Ernie Bevan started Nato.

But they won't listen. They care more about virtue signalling that the Iraq war was "not in my name" than they do about getting you lot out and stopping the poor being trampled on.

It's really depressing. And now India's trying to imitate the 3rd Reich. I feel sad.

My Indian friends seem rather keen on Mr Modi. But they're all rich and hate Muslims.

[Burney]

My Indian friends seem rather keen on Mr Modi. But they're all rich and hate Muslims.

To be fair, he does seem quite sound on the Allan question. On the downside, he dresses funny.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

My Indian friends seem rather keen on Mr Modi. But they're all rich and hate Muslims.

Rich, Prussian anti-Semites were keen on Adolf, C.

Gandhi, Nehru, Ambedkar, Indira and Rajiv were all British educated to varying degrees. They built a secular India. Now we've got the Nazi chai-wallah it's hell in a hand cart time.

All Indian PMs should have UK degrees. And all UK PMs should smoke chillums with sadhus.

[Burney]

Rich, Prussian anti-Semites were keen on Adolf, C.

Gandhi, Nehru, Ambedkar, Indira and Rajiv were all British educated to varying degrees. They built a secular India. Now we've got the Nazi chai-wallah it's hell in a hand cart time.

All Indian PMs should have UK degrees. And all UK PMs should smoke chillums with sadhus.

Hmmm. It does sound a leetle beet like you prefer the idea of a remote, political/managerial class who do what they want and are all related to a popularly-rooted democratic PM with support among the demos.

This would be very much of a theme with your take on UK politics, to be fair.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

Hmmm. It does sound a leetle beet like you prefer the idea of a remote, political/managerial class who do what they want and are all related to a popularly-rooted democratic PM with support among the demos.

This would be very much of a theme with your take on UK politics, to be fair.

You have a country where many are illiterate and the only thing that gives them happiness in their poverty is their tribal religious beliefs.

The different state govts now think it's fine to change the school books in a way that Goebbels would have approved of.

Where there was previously a free media, under Modi, all bar NDTV have simply become propaganda outlets.

Of course they shouldn't be allowed to start WW3.

Answer me this. The C18th and C19th centuries saw the British end up dominating the planet, while spreading their enlightened values globally.

Do you think it would have been better had we had full franchise democracy, or can you accept that the country wasn't ready for it and we had to move towards it gradually?

[Burney]

You have a country where many are illiterate and the only thing that gives them happiness in their poverty is their tribal religious beliefs.

The different state govts now think it's fine to change the school books in a way that Goebbels would have approved of.

Where there was previously a free media, under Modi, all bar NDTV have simply become propaganda outlets.

Of course they shouldn't be allowed to start WW3.

Answer me this. The C18th and C19th centuries saw the British end up dominating the planet, while spreading their enlightened values globally.

Do you think it would have been better had we had full franchise democracy, or can you accept that the country wasn't ready for it and we had to move towards it gradually?

The elites never think those they govern are ready for democracy because having to answer to the people means setting a limit on their power and having to do things they don't want to do.
And there are always reasons why people should be considered too backwards, simple or ignorant to be allowed to vote.

Suffice to say I'm deeply suspicious about the motives of anyone who ever makes these arguments.

[Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult]

The elites never think those they govern are ready for democracy because having to answer to the people means setting a limit on their power and having to do things they don't want to do.
And there are always reasons why people should be considered too backwards, simple or ignorant to be allowed to vote.

Suffice to say I'm deeply suspicious about the motives of anyone who ever makes these arguments.

It's a simple question, B. Walpole became PM in 1720. We had the GRA in 1832.

Had either of those dates seen the introduction of full suffrage (and a Parliament Act denying the HoL a veto) do you think the country (and the world) would have progressed as well?

Or do you think the plebs would have buggered the economy by voting for free gin and public papist burnings?

I'm talking about a specific historical period and a counter-factual. Was the UK ready for full democracy in 1720 (or even 1832)?