So it looks as though we're going to have an election.

[Burney]

I am not sure that the leave campaign really thought things through (EU not letting them have their way on the Irish border issue/divorce bill/where numbers like £350m a week/month/year for the NHS actually came from). The vast majority certainly wouldn't have a clue about the consequences of leaving without a deal.

All of the above takes this back to Cameron. How he decided to let the people make decisions that most are too ill-informed to make is beyond me. Do we not have MPs for exactly this reason - to make the sensible decisions for the country?

It's really not that complicated, though. People decided they want to live in an independent, self-governing and above all democratic nation state rather than be in the EU.

That's it. The issue itself is remarkably simple and we are all legitimately capable of making a choice about it.

[Rich]

It's really not that complicated, though. People decided they want to live in an independent, self-governing and above all democratic nation state rather than be in the EU.

That's it. The issue itself is remarkably simple and we are all legitimately capable of making a choice about it.

I appreciate that is why you voted Leave. However, I think the majority of your fellow leavers may have voted based on some mis-guided beliefs of what a Post-Brexit land would look like.

[IUFG]

I appreciate that is why you voted Leave. However, I think the majority of your fellow leavers may have voted based on some mis-guided beliefs of what a Post-Brexit land would look like.

and here we have the infinite loop . . . a Moebius strip of Remainers who believe they are correct and Leavers are thick / misinformed.

As, pretty much, an indifferent person on such matters, I find the psychology of the whole Brexit thing marvellous fun.

[Tony C]

Remainers are led by Comrade Corbyn, former escort Gina Miller, that traitor Blair and head of social media Jorge.

A fine trustworthy group imo

[Ash]

I appreciate that is why you voted Leave. However, I think the majority of your fellow leavers may have voted based on some mis-guided beliefs of what a Post-Brexit land would look like.

Are you quite sure you understand what a future EU land would look like? And how much say you or anyone except a ruling elite will have in what that looks like?

[Burney]

I appreciate that is why you voted Leave. However, I think the majority of your fellow leavers may have voted based on some mis-guided beliefs of what a Post-Brexit land would look like.

What you think others voted for isn't really relevant, though. That's pure supposition on your part and you do not get to deny others a say because of what you think they might have in their minds when they vote.

For the record, it has become abundantly clear to me that most remainers had no idea what the EU is, what it does or how it operates. Many of them it seemed to me voted the way they did out of a combination of conservatism and a general sense that voting Remain was the 'virtuous' thing to do because Farage. Should their votes also be discounted as based on ignorance?

[PSRB]

What you think others voted for isn't really relevant, though. That's pure supposition on your part and you do not get to deny others a say because of what you think they might have in their minds when they vote.

For the record, it has become abundantly clear to me that most remainers had no idea what the EU is, what it does or how it operates. Many of them it seemed to me voted the way they did out of a combination of conservatism and a general sense that voting Remain was the 'virtuous' thing to do because Farage. Should their votes also be discounted as based on ignorance?

Most of them (at least on Twitter) seem to think that we are actually leaving Europe not the EU

[Ash]

Most of them (at least on Twitter) seem to think that we are actually leaving Europe not the EU

As in pulling up the anchor and sailing off into the West? Frodo style?

Or just not playing in the Europa League any more.

[Pokster]

What you think others voted for isn't really relevant, though. That's pure supposition on your part and you do not get to deny others a say because of what you think they might have in their minds when they vote.

For the record, it has become abundantly clear to me that most remainers had no idea what the EU is, what it does or how it operates. Many of them it seemed to me voted the way they did out of a combination of conservatism and a general sense that voting Remain was the 'virtuous' thing to do because Farage. Should their votes also be discounted as based on ignorance?

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[Burney]

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Yes. Hence 'For the record', denoting the fact that it was not intended as a substantive point, but merely as a means of turning r's question back on him.