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    So it looks as though we're going to have an election.

    Meanwhile, Labour - who have been screaming for an election now for 12 months and will currently complain to anyone who'll listen about our 'unelected' PM - are suddenly talking about not voting for an election because they're pretty sure Boris will walk it.
    This could be possibly Labour's most incoherent position yet, surpassing even their stunning 'we will negotiate a new Brexit deal and then campaign against it' shítshow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Meanwhile, Labour - who have been screaming for an election now for 12 months and will currently complain to anyone who'll listen about our 'unelected' PM - are suddenly talking about not voting for an election because they're pretty sure Boris will walk it.
    This could be possibly Labour's most incoherent position yet, surpassing even their stunning 'we will negotiate a new Brexit deal and then campaign against it' shítshow.
    Labour wanted an election under their terms, if BJ trys to call an election because it is what he wants then Labour are in a very difficult position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokster View Post
    Labour wanted an election under their terms, if BJ trys to call an election because it is what he wants then Labour are in a very difficult position.
    Correct. They wanted a GE when May (who was electoral poison) was in charge - or after No Deal to exploit any difficulties that arose. They're terrified of one now against Boris (whose personal popularity ratings are surging).

    Problem is, no Leader of the Opposition can reject the chance of an election and hope to retain any credibility - let alone be able to get away with wibbling a load of old balls about 'coups' and 'An unelected Prime Minister' (don't get me started on that, btw).

    Mind you, it's questionable how much credibility Corbyn still has to lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Correct. They wanted a GE when May (who was electoral poison) was in charge - or after No Deal to exploit any difficulties that arose. They're terrified of one now against Boris (whose personal popularity ratings are surging).

    Problem is, no Leader of the Opposition can reject the chance of an election and hope to retain any credibility - let alone be able to get away with wibbling a load of old balls about 'coups' and 'An unelected Prime Minister' (don't get me started on that, btw).

    Mind you, it's questionable how much credibility Corbyn still has to lose.
    Not often I agree with Tony B, Labour shoudl avoid an election as a Brexit election, they should be pushing for a second Ref if that is what they actually think......New leader syndrome is likely to see a Tory bounce and the real winners would be the Lib Dems and the Tory party.....Labour likely to be squeezed as nobody knows what they actually stand for (Tory party are split but the power is now with leave)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokster View Post
    Not often I agree with Tony B, Labour shoudl avoid an election as a Brexit election, they should be pushing for a second Ref if that is what they actually think......New leader syndrome is likely to see a Tory bounce and the real winners would be the Lib Dems and the Tory party.....Labour likely to be squeezed as nobody knows what they actually stand for (Tory party are split but the power is now with leave)
    Consider how it would look, though. Not brave enough to force a Vote of No Confidence or agree to an election - essentially keeping a Tory Government in place by refusing to go to the polls. Not sure how you come back from that. Basically, if the Government throws down the gauntlet, the Opposition pretty much has to accept the challenge or become a laughing stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Consider how it would look, though. Not brave enough to force a Vote of No Confidence or agree to an election - essentially keeping a Tory Government in place by refusing to go to the polls. Not sure how you come back from that. Basically, if the Government throws down the gauntlet, the Opposition pretty much has to accept the challenge or become a laughing stock.
    are they not already?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Consider how it would look, though. Not brave enough to force a Vote of No Confidence or agree to an election - essentially keeping a Tory Government in place by refusing to go to the polls. Not sure how you come back from that. Basically, if the Government throws down the gauntlet, the Opposition pretty much has to accept the challenge or become a laughing stock.
    Good for the country. We have the worst government for 40+ years and that's only possible because we have the worst opposition in living memory. This should finish off the opposition and hopefully replace it with one that holds the government to some form of account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burney View Post
    Meanwhile, Labour - who have been screaming for an election now for 12 months and will currently complain to anyone who'll listen about our 'unelected' PM - are suddenly talking about not voting for an election because they're pretty sure Boris will walk it.
    This could be possibly Labour's most incoherent position yet, surpassing even their stunning 'we will negotiate a new Brexit deal and then campaign against it' shítshow.
    Looks like Boris was talked out of calling a GE by someone...
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    Quote Originally Posted by IUFG View Post
    Looks like Boris was talked out of calling a GE by someone...
    Well he can't call an election......needs 2/3 of parliament to vote for it or he needs to get rid of the fixed term Parliamant (majority of 1) to enable him to call one when he likes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokster View Post
    Well he can't call an election......needs 2/3 of parliament to vote for it or he needs to get rid of the fixed term Parliamant (majority of 1) to enable him to call one when he likes
    Can someone summarise this mess for me, please? I have lost interest in this story which has now been going on for years.

    MPs have put this legislation forward that will mean Boris has to ask the EU to extend the deadline to 31/01 (if it wins, as expected). Boris will then call a GE (or not as I have read in other places?) in the hope of essentially ignoring this legislation (rather makes a mockery of legislation).

    If he does hold a GE and wins then will he not be in the same issue as he is now? If he loses then we'll likely remain with Comrade Corbyn at the helm?

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