I hate wednesdays... nothing ever good happened on a wednesday.

[Burney]

I've no idea. Polls still suggest corbyn has a credibility problem, despite the whole "cult of corbyn" business, I personally think he has very little to do with labour's resurgence and it would have come whoever was leader.

Populists are characterised by charisma and force of personality and he has none.

There is the theory that his very lack of discernible personality allows people to project whatever they want onto him. This whole 'he cares' stuff is bizarre, though. This is a man who nurtures anti-semites, supports terrorists and baldly refuses to condemn a Venezuelan president who is currently murdering his own people while being condemned by Amnesty and the UN. But despite all this, you get the same old guff about him 'caring' coming out.

It's all bloody odd, I must say. A madness seems to have descended on politics.

[Monty92]

There is the theory that his very lack of discernible personality allows people to project whatever they want onto him. This whole 'he cares' stuff is bizarre, though. This is a man who nurtures anti-semites, supports terrorists and baldly refuses to condemn a Venezuelan president who is currently murdering his own people while being condemned by Amnesty and the UN. But despite all this, you get the same old guff about him 'caring' coming out.

It's all bloody odd, I must say. A madness seems to have descended on politics.

I still think the theory that they peaked in the last GE is credible and something to cling on to.

But the big fear for me is Labour's ability to mobilise non-voters, which simply can't be matched by the Tories. However, I've seen analysis that suggests the seats in which those votes are up for grabs are not in the areas of the country that are any use to them if they want to win an election.

But given the Tories can't mobilise non-voters, that leaves them with the task of persuading swing voters and traditional Tory voters who didn't turn out last time because a) they voted remain and couldn't endorse a so-called hard brexit, or b) wanted to punish May for her hubris, to return to the fold.

There's some hope of success in both categories and that could help them across the line again, I reckon.

[Burney]

I still think the theory that they peaked in the last GE is credible and something to cling on to.

But the big fear for me is Labour's ability to mobilise non-voters, which simply can't be matched by the Tories. However, I've seen analysis that suggests the seats in which those votes are up for grabs are not in the areas of the country that are any use to them if they want to win an election.

But given the Tories can't mobilise non-voters, that leaves them with the task of persuading swing voters and traditional Tory voters who didn't turn out last time because a) they voted remain and couldn't endorse a so-called hard brexit, or b) wanted to punish May for her hubris, to return to the fold.

There's some hope of success in both categories and that could help them across the line again, I reckon.

You'd think that people who voted Remain because they didn't want a shock to the economy would surely struggle to vote again for a man who has to war-game a run on the pound if he wins a general election, can they?

There are things that happened last time that I simply can not ever see happening again, though. Labour won Kensington & Chelsea, ffs!

[Monty92]

You'd think that people who voted Remain because they didn't want a shock to the economy would surely struggle to vote again for a man who has to war-game a run on the pound if he wins a general election, can they?

There are things that happened last time that I simply can not ever see happening again, though. Labour won Kensington & Chelsea, ffs!

True. It's fair to assume most Tory remainers voted remain out of pragmatic concern for the economy whereas Labour remainers did so because they'd been indoctrinated into believing voting to leave was racist. This is also reason for hope.

On the other hand, Grenfell has been an absolute gift from the heavens for Labour.

[Burney]

True. It's fair to assume most Tory remainers voted remain out of pragmatic concern for the economy whereas Labour remainers did so because they'd been indoctrinated into believing voting to leave was racist. This is also reason for hope.

On the other hand, Grenfell has been an absolute gift from the heavens for Labour.

Surely no-one still cares about Grenfell, though, do they? It was ages ago. The residents have all moved on in the public mind from plucky survivors to whining, freeloading, scrounging (almost certainly) illegal immigrants, haven't they?