C'mon out MONTY!!! We want to talk football with you

[redgunamo]

These examples show that it is a possibility, not that it is a given. Or a slam-dunk as your sort would put it.

Yes, but our argument has been that is it isn't a possibility.

[Monty92]

These examples show that it is a possibility, not that it is a given. Or a slam-dunk as your sort would put it.

Leicester was a freak one-off, Dortmund only have one direct competitor and AM are (or were) riddled with debt.

[World's End Stella]

These examples show that it is a possibility, not that it is a given. Or a slam-dunk as your sort would put it.

True, but it means that it is no excuse for not competing for the league for the better part of 10 years when you have the history and the money that Arsenal do.

Note I said 'competing for' not 'winning'.

[World's End Stella]

Leicester was a freak one-off, Dortmund only have one direct competitor and AM are (or were) riddled with debt.

I'd like to think you're taking the piss.

[redgunamo]

Leicester was a freak one-off, Dortmund only have one direct competitor and AM are (or were) riddled with debt.

Dortmund aren't even the second best team in a one-team league

[Burney]

Leicester was a freak one-off, Dortmund only have one direct competitor and AM are (or were) riddled with debt.

By definition, winning the league over 38 games cannot be a freak occurrence. Leicester's league win demonstrated the fact that there is simply no systemic reason that any club with the right combination of players and management cannot win the league in any given season.

[Monty92]

By definition, winning the league over 38 games cannot be a freak occurrence. Leicester's league win demonstrated the fact that there is simply no systemic reason that any club with the right combination of players and management cannot win the league in any given season.

How much money would you bet on such a lowly team winning the league again (without the help of a sugar daddy) in the next decade? Or 20 years? There's a reason why the answer is "not much" - it was a freak season.

Equally, going the season unbeaten. Laudable, but ultimately a freak.

[Peter]

No, but I think his point is that we could conceivably start competing with them at football on a regular basis, regardless of spending money.

Which goes back to your point. The little tinker Monty has managed to drag us back to the financial handicap rather than focusing on what a useless **** Wenger is.

[Burney]

How much money would you bet on such a lowly team winning the league again (without the help of a sugar daddy) in the next decade? Or 20 years? There's a reason why the answer is "not much" - it was a freak season.

Equally, going the season unbeaten. Laudable, but ultimately a freak.

Fine, but if Leicester can achieve it despite all that, how much worse does that make the fact that a team with our resources and talent hasn't done so for 12 years?

Let's be honest, if we'd played to our potential that season, we'd have won the league. The fact we didn't is actually a pretty savage indictment of the character and leadership of that team.

[Peter]

How much money would you bet on such a lowly team winning the league again (without the help of a sugar daddy) in the next decade? Or 20 years? There's a reason why the answer is "not much" - it was a freak season.

Equally, going the season unbeaten. Laudable, but ultimately a freak.

Particularly given that they could have won the league with 71 points that season, underlining just how bad all the 'best' sides were that year. So bad in fact that we finished above them with one of our poorest returns in years.

A freak season. We cant even properly challenge for the title in a freak season. THat is how **** we are.