http://www.awimb.com/fudforum/index.php?t=tree&goto=3669 287&rid=327&S=b5ef7e128db3bd9fa68c9a85c2a8ed2f makes me chuckle that one
http://www.awimb.com/fudforum/index.php?t=tree&goto=3669 288&rid=3559&S=36fd63f59901aeb288514c46e3a0e863
mea culpa
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