Apart from anything else, didn't this whole problem start because a white guy decided kneeling would be a good idea? :shrug:
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Apart from anything else, didn't this whole problem start because a white guy decided kneeling would be a good idea? :shrug:
'taking a knee' has been a protest symbol since 2016 - against racial inequality and police brutality :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
I'm aware. And it was done by way of a direct refusal to stand for the US National Anthem. Yet another reason it's totally f@cking ridiculous in the context of the UK. But that doesn't stop these cretins, of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by IUFG
Or is it the UK people showing solidarity?Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Or it is the Antifa's token gesture before a good old, mindless smashing and defacing session
It's the left's basic 'long march through the institutions' strategy in action. Get authority figures to demean and humiliate themselves, thereby removing all respect for them. Then smash them apart and leave nothing standing. Then allow hard-left politics to fill the vacuum.Quote:
Originally Posted by IUFG
It's been going on for about 50 years.
Berni in moaning old git shocker..... things are getting back to normalQuote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Common Purpose will stop at nothing to bring down decadent, democratic capitalism; a few dead rioters and ruined livelihoods are a mere detail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
They were relatively calm whilst they had their soyboys Obama and Cameron safely installed, but the orange lunatic is driving them utterly mental.
Nothing would suit them better than a civil war in the US and UK; they can pick through the rubble at the end and install the true Global Marxism they so devoutly seek.
I'm taking my ponies off to the hills a-sap.
Civilisations fall to the barbarians because they lose the will and belief in themselves not to. It really is true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
A healthy, non-decadent society that believed in itself would be shooting these people. Instead, we have most of our institutions cheering them on. It's totally f@cked.
Exactly. Because those in charge of our institutions have all been on the course. They've all had the chip installed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
For one thing it rather discriminates against those with bad kneesQuote:
Originally Posted by Burney
A healthy, non-decadent society would shoot people for non-violent protest against what they view as an immoral act?Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Whereas an unhealthy, decadent society would listen to them and then try and address any valid concerns they raised?
Interesting. By which I mean insane.
Taking anything Berni says with anything more than a grain of salt is insane ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by WES
Remember when discussion was nuanced? Now it seems you're either a Nazi or a Marxist. Huge :yawn:
Trump has probably never used the word ‘nuanced’ in his life.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC East
And while I agree that the current trend towards labels and silos in any debate is dull, it is also potentially very dangerous. Especially when the president of the US of A seems incapable of any other type of thought.
Who's talking about 'non-violent protest'? I'm talking about feral scum rioting and looting. The non-violent protest ship sailed some time ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by WES
Oh, and what 'legitimate concerns' do young British people have about the behaviour of the Minneapolis Police Department, exactly? And how exactly does attacking members of the Met help address them?
As you said that most of our institutions were cheering them on, I assumed you were talking about non-violent protesters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Which of our institutions are cheering on the rioters and looters, exactly? Can you show us some examples?
Yes. Not the most inclusive of protesting symbols for those with limited mobility.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
You can do the googling yourself, but there are the pictures of policemen kneeling before the same people who attacked them minutes later. There are endless media and political figures applauding exactly the same people who then - inevitably - went on to riot.Quote:
Originally Posted by WES
You can't separate the 'good' protest from the 'bad' riot because it's exactly the same people and it was always going to end the same way. If you encouraged this nonsense in any form, you encouraged its outcome. You don't get to cheer it all the way until the first brick is inevitably thrown and then wash your hands of it. You are culpable. You can't just abdicate moral responsibility for your actions like that.
We had a female police officer “bend the knee” yesterday in front of the protesters, holding a “white silence is violence” banner whilst doing it. She then got up and started hugging a load of them and burst in to tears. Catching Covid-19 is too good for some of this lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
These idiots think that grovelling will make their enemies hate them less. It doesn't. It just makes them despise and hate you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Goat Sverige
So no institutions then. Good as that would have been very surprising and disappointing to find that our institutions were cheering lawlessness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Individuals I’m not so bothered about, not everyone can be sane. Donald Trump, as an example.
No institutions other than the media, the police and the political establishment, no.Quote:
Originally Posted by WES
Here's the Mayor of London at lunchtime yesterday:
"The death of George Floyd has rightly ignited fury and anguish not just in the USA but around the world. No country, city, police force or institution can be complacent about racism and the impact this has."
A few hours later and guess what? The pack of feral hoodrats he has encouraged to come into the heart of his city with their righteously ignited 'fury' interpret this as a free opportunity to have a go at the police because racism.
Only then does he say it's unacceptable to attack the police.
He set the police up as targets, encouraged the mob to have a go at them and then walked away.
You can't incite that sort of shít and then tut tut at its outcomes. It's like w@nking someone off and then complaining that your hand's covered in spunk.
I agree, it's very dangerous and stupid. Amazing how people on both sides can't see that.Quote:
Originally Posted by WES
"The death of George Floyd has rightly ignited fury and anguish not just in the USA but around the world. No country, city, police force or institution can be complacent about racism and the impact this has."Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Sounds like an incredibly reasonable statement. I doubt anybody at yesterday's gatherings even heard Khan's words, let alone acted on them.
Hopefully the scum attacking the police will be dealt with properly. He's made the right statement in that respect, hopefully action will follow.
On the day he'd allowed the gathering of thousands (during a pandemic and against social distancing measures, but hey-ho), he talks about igniting fury? When he could at least have demanded a peaceful response? You don't see that as in any way inflammatory, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC East
Not only is that statement encouraging a gathering that is completely unacceptable in the current situation, it's also validating not just anger but 'fury'. And, not only does it not bother to make the point that the Met has absolutely no culpability, but in fact it goes out of its way to tar them with the same brush!
'Incredibly reasonable'? Bóllocks. Inflammatory and irresponsible rhetoric from a man who is actually charged with the welfare of the city in which he's just helped to foment rioting.
If Berni is old then **** knows what that makes me. Ancient maybe :cry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pokster
Indeed. Take a pint, a pie and a picked egg would be far more inclusive.
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Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
I've sussed it B, America's grand plan. White cozzer kills black bloke in broad daylight in front of cameras. Protests (riots) begin mainly from the BAME community. All ignoring social distancing and we know the virus has got it in for the brothers so we're looking at possibly hundreds of thousands of dead negros. USA depopulation in full effect y'all. It's genius really. Tragic but genius from the honkies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
I do like a pickled egg, from time to time.Quote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo
I'm going to get a jar on the way home... :cloud9:
Served, proper Christian-fashion, in a bag of salted crisps? Lovely.
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Originally Posted by IUFG