Watching pundits desperately trying to argue

That the goal should have stood despite it being a clear foul....

Credit to Danny Murphy for saying on MOTD that it was a clear foul and people are only complaining because it is Arsenal. Particularly as he had to sit there and listen to Shay Given's Newcastle bull**** for 5 minutes.

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Originally Posted by Peter

That the goal should have stood despite it being a clear foul....

Credit to Danny Murphy for saying on MOTD that it was a clear foul and people are only complaining because it is Arsenal. Particularly as he had to sit there and listen to Shay Given's Newcastle bull**** for 5 minutes.

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Shay Given hates Arsenal....I have no idea why. He even said it was a foul but then tried to do the whole "but Arsenal" bs.

In fairness, I hate Shay Given

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Originally Posted by PSRB

Shay Given hates Arsenal....I have no idea why. He even said it was a foul but then tried to do the whole "but Arsenal" bs.

In fairness, I hate Shay Given

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Because he played for Newcastle. It is that simple.

The depth of their hatred for us should never be underestimated.

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Originally Posted by Peter

Because he played for Newcastle. It is that simple.

The depth of their hatred for us should never be underestimated.

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I don't really understand why.....2-0 FA Cup final is the only thing I can remember

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Originally Posted by PSRB

Shay Given hates Arsenal....I have no idea why. He even said it was a foul but then tried to do the whole "but Arsenal" bs.

In fairness, I hate Shay Given

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'98, '15 Cup finals?

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Originally Posted by Peter

Because he played for Newcastle. It is that simple.

The depth of their hatred for us should never be underestimated.

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So did Shearer and he was 100% behind us during the AM game.

I put it down to being Man City. That and being a complete and utter **** by birth.

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Originally Posted by PSRB

I don't really understand why.....2-0 FA Cup final is the only thing I can remember

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I understand there is a degree of animosity between the clubs at the higher levels.

And there is also the fact that they despise London and Londoners.

A heady mix of both, I assume

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Originally Posted by Peter

That the goal should have stood despite it being a clear foul....

Credit to Danny Murphy for saying on MOTD that it was a clear foul and people are only complaining because it is Arsenal. Particularly as he had to sit there and listen to Shay Given's Newcastle bull**** for 5 minutes.

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Those arguing against the goal being disallowed are making an absurd, short-sighted argument. This includes, much to my surprise, Jason Burt of the Tele.

They argue it is inconsistent given all the holding and grabbing that has been going on all year which massively misses the point that the refs have been pretty consistent all year long on corners. You can do pretty much whatever you want within reason provided you don't foul the keeper. And in this case there was a clear foul on the keeper. Examples of other alleged fouls on the keeper involve blocking them off as the ball is played, small amount of pushing etc

They don't have a single example of a keeper having their shirt tugged by one player while a second player holds their arms down so they can't catch the ball without a foul being given. They don't have anything even close to it.

It was a clear foul and there is no inconsistency whatsoever.

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Originally Posted by WES

Those arguing against the goal being disallowed are making an absurd, short-sighted argument. This includes, much to my surprise, Jason Burt of the Tele.

They argue it is inconsistent given all the holding and grabbing that has been going on all year which massively misses the point that the refs have been pretty consistent all year long on corners. You can do pretty much whatever you want within reason provided you don't foul the keeper. And in this case there was a clear foul on the keeper. Examples of other alleged fouls on the keeper involve blocking them off as the ball is played, small amount of pushing etc

They don't have a single example of a keeper having their shirt tugged by one player while a second player holds their arms down so they can't catch the ball without a foul being given. They don't have anything even close to it.

It was a clear foul and there is no inconsistency whatsoever.

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The only example I've seen was Ben White a couple of seasons back, he makes far less contact and guess what, it was disallowed

https://x.com/Gravitygunner14/status...47408521298070

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Originally Posted by WES

Those arguing against the goal being disallowed are making an absurd, short-sighted argument. This includes, much to my surprise, Jason Burt of the Tele.

They argue it is inconsistent given all the holding and grabbing that has been going on all year which massively misses the point that the refs have been pretty consistent all year long on corners. You can do pretty much whatever you want within reason provided you don't foul the keeper. And in this case there was a clear foul on the keeper. Examples of other alleged fouls on the keeper involve blocking them off as the ball is played, small amount of pushing etc

They don't have a single example of a keeper having their shirt tugged by one player while a second player holds their arms down so they can't catch the ball without a foul being given. They don't have anything even close to it.

It was a clear foul and there is no inconsistency whatsoever.

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I remember an incident with Saliba a few weeks back, not sure who the defender was but he actually pinned Saliba to the near post, he literally couldn?t move a muscle. Quite a bizarre thing to see. Complete unpunished :hehe:

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Originally Posted by WES

Those arguing against the goal being disallowed are making an absurd, short-sighted argument. This includes, much to my surprise, Jason Burt of the Tele.

They argue it is inconsistent given all the holding and grabbing that has been going on all year which massively misses the point that the refs have been pretty consistent all year long on corners. You can do pretty much whatever you want within reason provided you don't foul the keeper. And in this case there was a clear foul on the keeper. Examples of other alleged fouls on the keeper involve blocking them off as the ball is played, small amount of pushing etc

They don't have a single example of a keeper having their shirt tugged by one player while a second player holds their arms down so they can't catch the ball without a foul being given. They don't have anything even close to it.

It was a clear foul and there is no inconsistency whatsoever.

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Refs are also clear that the impact is important. Two players grappling miles away from the ball is probably going to be ignored.

And if Raya had been nowhere near winning the ball, that foul wouldn't have been given. But he is literally underneath it, and about to catch it. He is prevented from catching by an opponent who has his arm across his throat and his hand pushing Raya's upper arm taking his hand away from the ball. The impact is huge and significant. It is a clear foul.

But pundits dont care about rules, and guidance, and they only listen to refs when it suits them.

Also, the grappling between Rice and the Greek lad is pathetic. Worse than that happens at every corner. Utter nonsense.