Just at the other end of the table.
Both are pathetic and broken.
The worst thing is.
We're going to win **** all and they will survive...
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Just at the other end of the table.
Both are pathetic and broken.
The worst thing is.
We're going to win **** all and they will survive...
You've gone too far this time! :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by IUFG
If we win nothing this season. I don't think there will be a season by any team that promised so much and delivered so little. A true bottle job of an astronomical proportion. So embarrassing. I won't even take any solice in Spurs getting relegated if they do. I don't give a f**k I just want us to win things and play good football.
That would be a start...Quote:
Originally Posted by John Bunnell
No manager ever lost his fan base winning ugly. It's losing ugly that sets the mob a holleringQuote:
Originally Posted by John Bunnell
:shrug: Controversial opinion - I thought we played pretty well, hit the post twice, Havertz and Martinelli should have scored that chance between them and in the CL Kushonov (or whatever is name is) would have got a red, no attempt to play the ball, anywhere else on the pitch and that's a foul.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
I?m definitely more confident than I was. We did play well and 2-2 would have been a fair result.Quote:
Originally Posted by PSRB
Our fixtures are favourable to theirs. Eze looked good on the left (a concern is his defensive work mind you).
If we can keep Odegaard and Havertz fit for the next 5 games we have a chance. Let?s win them all.
But you're dancing on the Valentine?Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
Never took you for one of those, P.
NTTAWWI :-\
I think most people are pretty happy with how we played yesterday. Unfortunately, we still lost and we had put ourselves in a position where we couldn't afford to.Quote:
Originally Posted by PSRB
I dont think that was a sending off but I seem to be in the minority
Was a borderline challenge for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by PSRB
Haaland pulling Gabriel all over prior to scoring his goal - how the **** did VAR not consider that a foul?
I think the ref did a good job of letting those tussles persist. Was six of one and they were at it all game - so long as the ref was consistent on it (and he was) then no issue from me.Quote:
Originally Posted by IUFG
Gabriel should have gone for the 'headbutt', though.
Again, I dont think so. Haaland puts his head in first and instigated the entire thing. Gabriel is basically nudging him away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich
If he had gone down, it probably would have been red. Ref made a common sense call. As you say, he'd been doing it all game.
I don't think it's controversial, we did play pretty well, and if Eze's shot spins in I think we would have had a draw and possibly a win, at City, and all this negativity and whining would not exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by PSRB
But still, we're bottlers, a shambles, pathetic, broken - this despite being top of the league with 5 games to play and a CL semi-final to come.
The lack of perspective from some on here is really quite astonishing.
You said that two weeks ago when we were 9 points clear. And i told you we weren't really 9 points clear. It was a false 9, if you will pardon the pun.Quote:
Originally Posted by WES
My perspective on this hasn't changed all season. We dont look like a side that can win a title, even when everyone else is below par.
We all agreed we performed poorly last season. 270 million quid later and we are precisely four points better off than last season.
We've now lost four domestic games in a row, knocking ourselves out of two competitions and effectively out of a third.
And you think people are overreacting.
Well, each to their own, Wes. I understand the frustration on all sides. I just think the blind optimism approach is becoming tired and ignoring the very obvious momentum.
It has nothing to do with blind optimism, criticise the play of the team all you like, I've done my fair share as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
But a shambles and pathetic when we're top of the league and in a CL semi-final? You honestly don't have an issue with those adjectives?
Calling ourselves that even if we finish 2nd and get knocked out by Atl Madrid makes us sound like spoilt, entitled brats. Other than City there isn't a single set of supporters in the league that wouldn't love to be where we are. Shambles? Pathetic? Broken?
f@ck me :rolleyes:
The words may be a bit over the top. But it is frustration as much as anything. And let's not pretend that this is the first time it has happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by WES
We've come up short in every competition for four years. And only a fool would bet against it happening again this season.
By Thursday you'll be saying we are second in the league with two home games to come......
I dont think you can blame people for being angry. Even the performance yesterday was annoying. Where was that aggression last week?
We just keep on finding a way to fall short. And every year there is a justification.
It's our mentality that is pathetic, a shambles and broken.Quote:
Originally Posted by WES
Other teams fans joked/told us we'd bottle a quadruple. And guess what...?
Words matter, Peter. And they aren't a bit over the top, they are massively over the top. That's my only point, really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
Other than that I agree with your points and understand and share in the frustration. But my frustration will manifest itself more once I'm certain that it's over.
There is some reason to be hopeful in both the league and CL imo.
25 points from 14 league games since the start of January.Quote:
Originally Posted by IUFG
City haven't even had to be great or even consistent to overhaul us. We've done it for them.
We cracked when we weren't under pressure. And people think we are suddenly going to start winning all our games and scoring plenty now that the situation is desperate.
I find that staggering
If our mentality was that bad I, we wouldn't be top of the league with 5 to play. And in a CL semi.Quote:
Originally Posted by IUFG
I didn't see anything in the team's mentality yesterday, nor against Sporting, that concerned me. I think we're taking a complex problem and over simplifying it with absurdly provocative terms like bottlers, shambles etc.
There's optimism and then there's delusion...Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
I've seen literally nothing in this side, all season, to give me any belief that we can achieve anything other than runners up in both.Quote:
Originally Posted by WES
I know a lot of clubs would love to be where we are. But nobody really wants to finish second four years in a row. And certainly not where it is clear they should have won it.
Let's be clear. We should have won this title as comfortably as Liverpool did last season.
A champions league final would be fun. But the defeat will hurt a lot.
And i think you are elevating two relatively meaningless achievements to cover up our failures.Quote:
Originally Posted by WES
We've been top of a league where everybody else is **** and we've still managed to blow it.
And we've made it to a CL semi final by beating two teams we should be beating comfortably.
On paper, they sound like achievements. In practice they are what you should expect from a good side. And now we are approaching the business end, we are stumbling badly. As we have before.....
I'm not one of those. I didnt even go to Cambridge...Quote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo