And are exceptionally good at home :-(
And are exceptionally good at home :-(
Wouldn't be like Leeds to dent our title chances....Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich
I watched their match last night. Plenty of huff and puff but not much else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich
Decent long throws; their chap can even reach the penalty spot.
I didn't think they looked all that. Is at Elland Road thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo
Again though, if we?re not beating the likes of Leeds ?Quote:
Originally Posted by PSRB
Substitute throws for corners and that is exactly how a lot of people would describe us. With some justification.Quote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo
Well we're not beating the likes of Forest.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7sisters
In fact, we are rarely beating anyone away from home at the moment. Two wins from our last six away games......
Ah back in the days when I used to enjoy football. I went to Elland Road a few times. FA cup replay replays. Those games we smashed them by 4. Including the one we gave them flowers beforehand after the Istanbul stabbings. :cloud9:Quote:
Originally Posted by PSRB
Nelson Vivas and Olivier Dacourt scoring a free kick in the pissing rain. :-(
Cracking ground for football tbh
I?m wondering how long it will take for Arteta to become a hate figure. A couple of losses and a slip to third ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
I think Frank may feel he?s got off lightly in that scenario.
There is certainly a consensus near where we sit that Arteta has to fall on his sword should he not win the PL.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7sisters
I'd possibly only let him off if he then won the CL.
I dont think he would have to leave. But he would have to substantially change his approach. I want that to happen either way.Quote:
Originally Posted by IUFG
Truth is that you could wait 20 years for a better chance to win the league than this. And even if we were to win it, we wouldn't again. Not playing like this.
Really ? I think if it all comes to nought, he becomes the definitive dead man walking. The Kroenkes have had their turn in the barrel but have now proven their worth by their recent investments. There?s now talk of a ?500M stadium upgrade, which means another 10k seats to fill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
They?re not going to make exceptions for a manager who keeps going close imo
Maybe. Generally, demanding a title win or else is pretty unreasonable. But if you cant win this one......Quote:
Originally Posted by 7sisters
Dunno. The Kroenke's know that while, yes, we have money now, "other clubs" have the same money and more and they've had it for longer. And theirs is infinite, limitless.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7sisters
Like you winning a million on the football pools last weekend and your neighbour having won ten million ten years ago. You will still have alot of catching up to do.
Ferguson stood up fairly well to the Abramovich juggernaut. The only one to do so. We were mired by stadium debt repayments, while Liverpool simply wilted.Quote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo
There?s still an expectation with the neutral that Arsenal should be amongst the serious contenders, the big five, or is it 6, or 7 these days.
It puts the Kroenkes in an unenviable position.
Liverpool went a few rounds with City and managed to win a couple of titles.
We surely can?t fall back on our heels and become Spurs ?
At the end of the day, you must be right. After all, we're really only talking about the manager and the job he's doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7sisters
Today he is asking us to jump on the boat.Quote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo
Too many jokes there so I won't bother making one :-)
Well played, remarkable restraint.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
Decent press conference, I thought. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't; something really needs to change yet we're top of the league. The only way he can win is by winning.
I'm going to take his advice and enjoy it either way :lager:
One thing is for sure. If we do win the league, the footballing world is going to go crazy. The outpouring of hatred and disgust across the country will be hilarious.Quote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo
I've never seen a more hated team than this one. I suppose I get it, to some extent.
But people ****ing hated Wenger with a passion until he won the league. That forced them to calm down a bit.
Form and function, again :-)
In a way, Arteta is a far more suitable Arsenal manager than Wenger; he's willing to feed off and feed into our traditions, rather than subvert, overthrow and sabotage them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
Can you imagine the Frenchman employing a set pieces coach and making a big deal about corners? But this is who we are!
In his book, Tony Adams talked of having recently signed for us and being invited to watch a game from the directors' box and for the first time experiencing the crowd getting up when dear old Willie Young would lope forward for a corner kick, and deciding he wanted that reaction for himself as well and would work to make it so. A small thing, but a big deal.
Anyway, people didn't like Wenger and the feeling was pretty mutual; he didn't "like" us much either. Inadvertently, Brexit was his greatest triumph. It wouldn't have happened without him as he was the best, most public personification of the EU that the movement could've wished for. He was a constant reminder to people of just why we don't like Europeans; smug, whiny, aloof, know-all autocrats you simply cannot get rid of :-\
We tend to generate a special kind of hatred. People hated George and his football. They derided Tony Adams as a donkey, laughed at Lee Dixon. They despised Wenger and his poncey foreign training methods, French players, speaking different languages. Appreciating wine..... jesus, I think I hate him myself!....Quote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo
Where was I? Oh yeah, people hate us. They dont like a team from London that cant be written off as a joke or a Russian's toy.
**** them. Bunch of Northern, neanderthal ****s.
In other words, North London Forever :-)
Naturally, your rivals belittle you because they want to beat you. For decades the English football narrative has been written in the North-West. We are "cockney" upstarts and we get it in the neck the most because we have been at it the longest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
Also we didn't have a single player in the England squad in 1966 :-\
It's just as well. We were **** in 1966 :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo
We had a few in the French squad in 98 :-) although a couple of them didn't actually play for us yet.
Sunday has had one benefit. It has reminded me how much I hate United and their arsehole fans. Now those are cockney ****ers...