Afternoon, Have I missed anything

I'm going to be in trouble if we sudden?y go **** again aren't I?

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Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda

I'm going to be in trouble if we sudden?y go **** again aren't I?

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Good to have you back, all better?

Odd that MLS has been dropped by Tuchel and also not in U21 side

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Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda

I'm going to be in trouble if we sudden?y go **** again aren't I?

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Don't worry; Bayern is Finnish :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda

I'm going to be in trouble if we sudden?y go **** again aren't I?

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Nice to have you back. We were worried about you:-)

You haven't missed anything other than constant discussions as to whether we are **** or brilliant.

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Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda

I'm going to be in trouble if we sudden?y go **** again aren't I?

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Welcome back. Will be Asheswimb soon enough anyway so we can forget about all the football stuff.

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Originally Posted by Rich

Welcome back. Will be Asheswimb soon enough anyway so we can forget about all the football stuff.

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Until around day 3 of the first test when it becomes obvious that we have no chance of taking 20 wickets in any of the matches and the series is effectively dead.

Then we can start discussing the plans for the next ashes tour.....

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Originally Posted by Peter

Until around day 3 of the first test when it becomes obvious that we have no chance of taking 20 wickets in any of the matches and the series is effectively dead.

Then we can start discussing the plans for the next ashes tour.....

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I listen to the Tailenders podcast feat. Sir James Anderson. Now I don't know if he has any inside info but he is going with a bowling attack in Perth of:

Archer
Wood
Carse
Tongue
Stokes

So... No spinner (other than Root / Jacks if he plays and bats 3). But 5 bowlers who can bowl at over 90mph (well over in some cases).

What I don't know is how that deck in Perth plays at the new ground. It's a drop-in I know that much.... but either way; their batting doesn't look all that so we have at least got the gas for the first time in about 20 years to do well out there.

It's certainly not supposed to be as bouncy as the Waca was. Still a very potent bowling line up, assuming they all don't break.

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Originally Posted by Rich

I listen to the Tailenders podcast feat. Sir James Anderson. Now I don't know if he has any inside info but he is going with a bowling attack in Perth of:

Archer
Wood
Carse
Tongue
Stokes

So... No spinner (other than Root / Jacks if he plays and bats 3). But 5 bowlers who can bowl at over 90mph (well over in some cases).

What I don't know is how that deck in Perth plays at the new ground. It's a drop-in I know that much.... but either way; their batting doesn't look all that so we have at least got the gas for the first time in about 20 years to do well out there.

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We certainly have the 'wheels' this time. And without question, Archer on fire is unplayable and whatever the Aussies say, they are scared of him.

I think Atkinson has to play and could do well there. I'm not convinced about the others. I like Wood and Carse but they'll need to be a their best to make a contribution.

The spinners are likely to prove useless. :-(

We can score heavily over there, no question. But wickets is key...

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Originally Posted by Peter

Until around day 3 of the first test when it becomes obvious that we have no chance of taking 20 wickets in any of the matches and the series is effectively dead.

Then we can start discussing the plans for the next ashes tour.....

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Yup. When they're 436-5 at tea on day 3 in response to our 280 ao. {See what I did there?}

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Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda

I'm going to be in trouble if we sudden?y go **** again aren't I?

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About f@cking time! I told you to return ages ago :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by WES

About f@cking time! I told you to return ages ago :rolleyes:

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WD the pub, eh?

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Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda

I'm going to be in trouble if we sudden?y go **** again aren't I?

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:wave: welcome home, la

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Originally Posted by PSRB

Good to have you back, all better?

Odd that MLS has been dropped by Tuchel and also not in U21 side

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Still a few issues but getting there

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Originally Posted by Peter

Until around day 3 of the first test when it becomes obvious that we have no chance of taking 20 wickets in any of the matches and the series is effectively dead.

Then we can start discussing the plans for the next ashes tour.....

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You clearly havent seen Australia bat recently

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Originally Posted by Peter

We certainly have the 'wheels' this time. And without question, Archer on fire is unplayable and whatever the Aussies say, they are scared of him.

I think Atkinson has to play and could do well there. I'm not convinced about the others. I like Wood and Carse but they'll need to be a their best to make a contribution.

The spinners are likely to prove useless. :-(

We can score heavily over there, no question. But wickets is key...

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Atkinson and Stokes will play all five Tests if fit with the other four rotating (Archer and Wood first up). I think Tongue could cause problems - hopefully bowl like he did against Surrey - he was superb (sorry PSRB)

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Originally Posted by IUFG

:wave: welcome home, la

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Cheers I - hopefully behere a bit more often

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Originally Posted by WES

About f@cking time! I told you to return ages ago :rolleyes:

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You'll soon be sick of me again

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Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda

You clearly havent seen Australia bat recently

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Their line up is a bit....old

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Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda

You clearly havent seen Australia bat recently

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Not against us, in Australia. Where Mitch ****ing Marsh suddenly turns into Don Bradman :-(

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Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda

Atkinson and Stokes will play all five Tests if fit with the other four rotating (Archer and Wood first up). I think Tongue could cause problems - hopefully bowl like he did against Surrey - he was superb (sorry PSRB)

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Agree on Atkinson and Stokes, but i think you have to play Archer in as many as possible- if he is bowling well.

At his best, he is a different level. We've not had that in an ashes tour for a long, long time.

I'd settle for a competitive series, for us to at least be in the games. That has been the worst part of recent tours. The ashes is the summit of cricket and the last three tours have been a total non event.

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Originally Posted by Peter

Agree on Atkinson and Stokes, but i think you have to play Archer in as many as possible- if he is bowling well.

At his best, he is a different level. We've not had that in an ashes tour for a long, long time.

I'd settle for a competitive series, for us to at least be in the games. That has been the worst part of recent tours. The ashes is the summit of cricket and the last three tours have been a total non event.

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I'd settle for a Joe Root century - that will she ****ers up for a while. Be interesting to see what the pitches are like. Brisbane day nighter is an interesting one as well - we don't do well under lights

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Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda

I'd settle for a Joe Root century - that will she ****ers up for a while. Be interesting to see what the pitches are like. Brisbane day nighter is an interesting one as well - we don't do well under lights

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I'd say Joe Root is currently a better player than he ever has been. He should score big runs there.

Not worried about the runs so much

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Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda

I'd settle for a Joe Root century - that will she ****ers up for a while. Be interesting to see what the pitches are like. Brisbane day nighter is an interesting one as well - we don't do well under lights

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At least we don't have Brisbane 1st up as we always lose there. I do have to agree with Sir Geoff, we'll be rocking up to the 1st test with very little competitive practice.

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Originally Posted by PSRB

At least we don't have Brisbane 1st up as we always lose there. I do have to agree with Sir Geoff, we'll be rocking up to the 1st test with very little competitive practice.

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We always lose at all the grounds :-(

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Originally Posted by Peter

We always lose at all the grounds :-(

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That second innings :love:

Had plans to go this time but fate intervened

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Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda

That second innings :love:

Had plans to go this time but fate intervened

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We start in Perth, where the last time we avoided defeat was 1986 :-(

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Originally Posted by Peter

We start in Perth, where the last time we avoided defeat was 1986 :-(

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Yeah but it's not the Waca.....which might actually have suited our bowlers

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Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda

I'd settle for a Joe Root century - that will she ****ers up for a while. Be interesting to see what the pitches are like. Brisbane day nighter is an interesting one as well - we don't do well under lights

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I don't agree with day/night tests. Too much of a lottery. And you want the crowd full from the start.

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Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult

I don't agree with day/night tests. Too much of a lottery. And you want the crowd full from the start.

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Could not agree more gg

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Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda

That second innings :love:

Had plans to go this time but fate intervened

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Mark Wood broken :-( Well, a precautionary scan on a sore hamstring. Stokes takes 5 in warm up. He'll bowl himself to breaking point.

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Originally Posted by PSRB

Mark Wood broken :-( Well, a precautionary scan on a sore hamstring. Stokes takes 5 in warm up. He'll bowl himself to breaking point.

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Good start, eh? Never mind.

Calafiori injured too.

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Originally Posted by Rich

Good start, eh? Never mind.

Calafiori injured too.

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Cala is just being rested for the more important match for Italy, against the Nogs

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Originally Posted by PSRB

Cala is just being rested for the more important match for Italy, against the Nogs

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I read that he picked up a small groin issue against Sunderland but Italy still wanted to take a look at him. And now they have decided that he's not fit.

Still; we have Hincapie and MLS as cover.

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Originally Posted by Rich

I read that he picked up a small groin issue against Sunderland but Italy still wanted to take a look at him. And now they have decided that he's not fit.

Still; we have Hincapie and MLS as cover.

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NLD I'd prefer MLS to play anyway.

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Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda

I'm going to be in trouble if we sudden?y go **** again aren't I?

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Missed you, big man :cuddle;

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Originally Posted by PSRB

NLD I'd prefer MLS to play anyway.

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Hmm. Not sure I agree given that Calafiori has been arguably our best player this season and that MLS has fewer than 90 minutes of football in the PL this season.

I do think young Miles is destined for a role in CM when a berth becomes available anyway.

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Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda

Could not agree more gg

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And now Wood's crocked. I wonder f this is still Berni's curse - he did say if we could just win once down under he'd be happy for us always to lose at everything thereafter. {Or words to that effect.}

Our hope was to hit them with pace in Perth at the start and take them by surprise. {We did that in India with Root's double ton, remember?} And then hope the day night lottery in test two works in our favour {as their karma for wanting a day night to sell a few more tickets despite the millions they sell at the G.}

1-0 or 2-0 up going into Adelaide and we would worry far less about resting and rotating the quicks. They could start to turn on each other {by they I mean the media, the public} instead of their usual crowing while we just hoist the white flag of inferiority.

As an aside, we're about to see if the Zak gamble for the last 4 years has paid off. For some reason, I'm not totally convinced it won't. {Maybe it's that 189 or whatever, or hitting the first ball of the last one for 4. But more pace and less movement is right up his street.}

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Originally Posted by Sir C

Missed you, big man :cuddle;

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Aw cheers Sir C. Missed you too

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Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult

And now Wood's crocked. I wonder f this is still Berni's curse - he did say if we could just win once down under he'd be happy for us always to lose at everything thereafter. {Or words to that effect.}

Our hope was to hit them with pace in Perth at the start and take them by surprise. {We did that in India with Root's double ton, remember?} And then hope the day night lottery in test two works in our favour {as their karma for wanting a day night to sell a few more tickets despite the millions they sell at the G.}

1-0 or 2-0 up going into Adelaide and we would worry far less about resting and rotating the quicks. They could start to turn on each other {by they I mean the media, the public} instead of their usual crowing while we just hoist the white flag of inferiority.

As an aside, we're about to see if the Zak gamble for the last 4 years has paid off. For some reason, I'm not totally convinced it won't. {Maybe it's that 189 or whatever, or hitting the first ball of the last one for 4. But more pace and less movement is right up his street.}

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Only giving Zak a one year contract is interesting - a shot across the bows (which flies to second slip)