Another ordinary performance

Another 1-0 win from a set piece.

Another game where we create very, very little.

We can't keep doing this. We won't keep getting away with it.

Other than that, pretty good weekend;-)

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Originally Posted by Peter

Another 1-0 win from a set piece.

Another game where we create very, very little.

We can't keep doing this. We won't keep getting away with it.

Other than that, pretty good weekend;-)

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Excellent weekend for Bournemouth :-)

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Originally Posted by redgunamo

Excellent weekend for Bournemouth :-)

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Indeed. I believe they scored from a corner as well. Everybody is at it now!

Thank heavens for our stupendous defence.

We really do need to get some of these buggers off of the injury table. What?s the point of squad depth, if in reality, that depth isn?t being employed ?

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Originally Posted by 7sisters

We really do need to get some of these buggers off of the injury table. What?s the point of squad depth, if in reality, that depth isn?t being employed ?

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Totally agree. Either that or we need to buy more players :-\ #ssMfm

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Totally agree. Either that or we need to buy more players :-\ #ssMfm

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Maybe we need to find out why our players always get injured. I mean not every other PL club spend 1/4bn on squad players and still only has a Gabby as the only attacking option from the bench.

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Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult

Maybe we need to find out why our players always get injured. I mean not every other PL club spend 1/4bn on squad players and still only has a Gabby as the only attacking option from the bench.

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Everyone gets them, always will. It's more the hope than any sense of expectation really.

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Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult

Maybe we need to find out why our players always get injured. I mean not every other PL club spend 1/4bn on squad players and still only has a Gabby as the only attacking option from the bench.

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See.... it really is as if Nwaneri doesn't exist any more. Even you are forgetting him....

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Everyone gets them, always will. It's more the hope than any sense of expectation really.

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Lost Saliba today, and Rice went off after treatment. Hopefully we rest plenty for the league cup.

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Everyone gets them, always will. It's more the hope than any sense of expectation really.

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As many as we've got recently?

Don't remember having 3-4 of the first XI out injured all the time when Brian Talbot was playing 70 games that season.

As you may know, Reds, I don't follow other teams. But Jeez, Kai, Odin and Noni are famous players. Who is currently injured for LFC, MC or Sperz? Do they have 4 players out I've ever heard of? {It's gonna be hard cos I only know Salah, Harlaaand and Kane.}

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Originally Posted by redgunamo

Totally agree. Either that or we need to buy more players :-\ #ssMfm

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But the depth IS being employed, and wouldn't be if we didn't have injuries.

And we did need to buy more players. That's why we bought them.

Of course, a couple more wouldn't hurt.

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As many as we've got recently?

Don't remember having 3-4 of the first XI out injured all the time when Brian Talbot was playing 70 games that season.

As you may know, Reds, I don't follow other teams. But Jeez, Kai, Odin and Noni are famous players. Who is currently injured for LFC, MC or Sperz? Do they have 4 players out I've ever heard of? {It's gonna be hard cos I only know Salah, Harlaaand and Kane.}

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Having 3 or 4 players out is about normal. It just depends who they are.

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Having 3 or 4 players out is about normal. It just depends who they are.

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Although, it has to be noted, perhaps not barely 9 games in. :rubchin:

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Although, it has to be noted, perhaps not barely 9 games in. :rubchin:

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One of them was already injured, to be fair.

Although apparently Martinelli picked up an injury today as well.... :-(

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Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult

As many as we've got recently?

Don't remember having 3-4 of the first XI out injured all the time when Brian Talbot was playing 70 games that season.

As you may know, Reds, I don't follow other teams. But Jeez, Kai, Odin and Noni are famous players. Who is currently injured for LFC, MC or Sperz? Do they have 4 players out I've ever heard of? {It's gonna be hard cos I only know Salah, Harlaaand and Kane.}

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Liverpool have Becker, Frimpong, Gravenberch, Jones and Isak on their injury list. Alisson is obviously a huge miss for them. Gravenberch is underrated.

VvD looked average on Saturday, Konate had a better game. Salah was a waste of space again and should have been hooked long before he scored a superbly taken goal.

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Thank heavens for our stupendous defence.

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I'm not having that header from Eddie counts as shot on target!

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I'm not having that header from Eddie counts as shot on target!

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I noticed the stats listed one shot on target and couldn't think what it was :-)

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Liverpool have Becker, Frimpong, Gravenberch, Jones and Isak on their injury list. Alisson is obviously a huge miss for them. Gravenberch is underrated.

VvD looked average on Saturday, Konate had a better game. Salah was a waste of space again and should have been hooked long before he scored a superbly taken goal.

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I know defenders tend to get away with grabbing and pushing more than the rules strictly allow, but that pair at Liverpool are taking it to new heights. Konate plays football more with his hands than this feet and as VvD gets older he seems to be following suit.

It's as if you can push and grab all you want with one hand, and two provided it isn't too aggregious.

I thought there were two debatale pens against them for pushing prior to the pen that was awarded for a kick.

And their FBs are absolutely awful defensively. How much did they pay for that donkey at LB who couldn't defend to save his life.

This really is quite a miracle; they won the league by 10 points and then spent 450mil in the summer and they're worse :hehe:

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I know defenders tend to get away with grabbing and pushing more than the rules strictly allow, but that pair at Liverpool are taking it to new heights. Konate plays football more with his hands than this feet and as VvD gets older he seems to be following suit.

It's as if you can push and grab all you want with one hand, and two provided it isn't too aggregious.

I thought there were two debatale pens against them for pushing prior to the pen that was awarded for a kick.

And their FBs are absolutely awful defensively. How much did they pay for that donkey at LB who couldn't defend to save his life.

This really is quite a miracle; they won the league by 10 points and then spent 450mil in the summer and they're worse :hehe:

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Last season = Klopp's team, this season = Slot's team

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Last season = Klopp's team, this season = Slot's team

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He's got a job on his hands now. He has signed players who fundamentally change the way they play and it isn't working. They look horribly unbalanced all over the pitch.

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He's got a job on his hands now. He has signed players who fundamentally change the way they play and it isn't working. They look horribly unbalanced all over the pitch.

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They really miss TAA, I know Kerkez scored but other than that he was terrible. Salah looks lost, yes he scored a worldie but currently you just don't worry about him.

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See.... it really is as if Nwaneri doesn't exist any more. Even you are forgetting him....

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I wasn't but you're right. I was thinking ones MA would actually use. There is an incredible footballer in there but MA's too safety first.

Brought on MnM when he took Easy off. Hasn't even brought him on when 2-0 up. He could have come on for B yesterday, too. Then used Gabby on the left where he's better.

It's pointless having a player of that potential and not using him. Remember when AW wouldn't give Gnabry a pwoppa go. I knew he'd be great but he was sent on loan to some bunch of cloggers who didn't even play him and then given away to Europe.

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Originally Posted by pjlincs

Liverpool have Becker, Frimpong, Gravenberch, Jones and Isak on their injury list. Alisson is obviously a huge miss for them. Gravenberch is underrated.

VvD looked average on Saturday, Konate had a better game. Salah was a waste of space again and should have been hooked long before he scored a superbly taken goal.

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Of those players out injured, how many would their fans be perfectly happy to see start a CL QF, for example?

Cos as I thought, I've never heard of them. I've heard of Isak, didn't know he was injured. Had wondered why he was neither scoring nor being moaned about for not scoring so that makes sense.

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I wasn't but you're right. I was thinking ones MA would actually use. There is an incredible footballer in there but MA's too safety first.

Brought on MnM when he took Easy off. Hasn't even brought him on when 2-0 up. He could have come on for B yesterday, too. Then used Gabby on the left where he's better.

It's pointless having a player of that potential and not using him. Remember when AW wouldn't give Gnabry a pwoppa go. I knew he'd be great but he was sent on loan to some bunch of cloggers who didn't even play him and then given away to Europe.

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He'll start in the couldn'tcare cup

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Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult

I wasn't but you're right. I was thinking ones MA would actually use. There is an incredible footballer in there but MA's too safety first.

Brought on MnM when he took Easy off. Hasn't even brought him on when 2-0 up. He could have come on for B yesterday, too. Then used Gabby on the left where he's better.

It's pointless having a player of that potential and not using him. Remember when AW wouldn't give Gnabry a pwoppa go. I knew he'd be great but he was sent on loan to some bunch of cloggers who didn't even play him and then given away to Europe.

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As I said in the summer, the new guys are nicking his minutes. It was inevitable.

He has time on his side but over the next two seasons he does need games.

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As I said in the summer, the new guys are nicking his minutes. It was inevitable.

He has time on his side but over the next two seasons he does need games.

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He needs to earn his minutes on the training ground / in games like Wednesday night against Brighton. It's not a charity - we're here to win competitions.

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Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult

Of those players out injured, how many would their fans be perfectly happy to see start a CL QF, for example?

Cos as I thought, I've never heard of them. I've heard of Isak, didn't know he was injured. Had wondered why he was neither scoring nor being moaned about for not scoring so that makes sense.

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Come on.... you've never heard of their goalkeeper? Or Gravenberch?

3 of those 5 are guaranteed starters.

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He needs to earn his minutes on the training ground / in games like Wednesday night against Brighton. It's not a charity - we're here to win competitions.

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It's a lot harder to earn those minutes when the boss spends 120 million on two players who immediately sit ahead of you.

That's the point. If Arteta had real confidence in him, he would have spent his money elsewhere

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It's a lot harder to earn those minutes when the boss spends 120 million on two players who immediately sit ahead of you.

That's the point. If Arteta had real confidence in him, he would have spent his money elsewhere

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He's 18. His time will come, probably starting on Wednesday.

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It's a lot harder to earn those minutes when the boss spends 120 million on two players who immediately sit ahead of you.

That's the point. If Arteta had real confidence in him, he would have spent his money elsewhere

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Perhaps he wouldn't mind selling him :rubchin:

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Perhaps he wouldn't mind selling him :rubchin:

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He may have to go on loan. Or wait for even more injuries....

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As I said in the summer, the new guys are nicking his minutes. It was inevitable.

He has time on his side but over the next two seasons he does need games.

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Spot on. {10 wotsits}

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Come on.... you've never heard of their goalkeeper? Or Gravenberch?

3 of those 5 are guaranteed starters.

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I know they bought a 70-80m goalie at the same time as VdV. I don't know what he's called. And as for that Gravadlax, never even heard of him. Doesn't even ring a vague bell like Rodri {who until this summer I didn't know was a DM} or De Bruyne {who I now know isn't even a Cloggie. Which proves he's a wrong'un.}

FTR - I had heard of that TAA full back chap who left on a free.

But let's be honest, these lot all sound like Mickey Mouse Scousers. Barnes, Beardsley, Rush, Dalglish etc. You knew where you were with them lot. Souness, Phil Neal, Terry McDermott, Steve McMahon etc. Pwoppa Scousers. Don't really trust these new signings. Their 80m 'keeper - will he take a bung to throw a game like their Rhodesian? If so, we should have a whip 'round. Unless he's been bought off already.

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Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult

I know they bought a 70-80m goalie at the same time as VdV. I don't know what he's called. And as for that Gravadlax, never even heard of him. Doesn't even ring a vague bell like Rodri {who until this summer I didn't know was a DM} or De Bruyne {who I now know isn't even a Cloggie. Which proves he's a wrong'un.}

FTR - I had heard of that TAA full back chap who left on a free.

But let's be honest, these lot all sound like Mickey Mouse Scousers. Barnes, Beardsley, Rush, Dalglish etc. You knew where you were with them lot. Souness, Phil Neal, Terry McDermott, Steve McMahon etc. Pwoppa Scousers. Don't really trust these new signings. Their 80m 'keeper - will he take a bung to throw a game like their Rhodesian? If so, we should have a whip 'round. Unless he's been bought off already.

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Two of those might be Scousers, McDermott and McMahon. Barnes is Jamaican, Beardsley a Geordie, Rush Welsh, Dalglish Glaswegian, Souness also a Scot but from Edinburgh and Phil Neal is a Midlander. I bought a house from his son Ashley when he was binned off by Peterborough United. Dad was a witness signature which excited my solicitor no end.

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Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult

I know they bought a 70-80m goalie at the same time as VdV. I don't know what he's called. And as for that Gravadlax, never even heard of him. Doesn't even ring a vague bell like Rodri {who until this summer I didn't know was a DM} or De Bruyne {who I now know isn't even a Cloggie. Which proves he's a wrong'un.}

FTR - I had heard of that TAA full back chap who left on a free.

But let's be honest, these lot all sound like Mickey Mouse Scousers. Barnes, Beardsley, Rush, Dalglish etc. You knew where you were with them lot. Souness, Phil Neal, Terry McDermott, Steve McMahon etc. Pwoppa Scousers. Don't really trust these new signings. Their 80m 'keeper - will he take a bung to throw a game like their Rhodesian? If so, we should have a whip 'round. Unless he's been bought off already.

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Yes, that is the 80 million quid keeper. The Gravenberch chap, or whatever his ****ing name is, is a decent player.

Dalglish was an absolute ****. Not really relevant, but I felt it needed saying :-)

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Two of those might be Scousers, McDermott and McMahon. Barnes is Jamaican, Beardsley a Geordie, Rush Welsh, Dalglish Glaswegian, Souness also a Scot but from Edinburgh and Phil Neal is a Midlander. I bought a house from his son Ashley when he was binned off by Peterborough United. Dad was a witness signature which excited my solicitor no end.

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Oh, don't come over all Farragist on me, PJ. Daveed, Big Willy, Big Gabby etc are Gooners. Therefore Barnes, Beardsley and Rush are Scousers.

Glad you made your solicitor happy. But I'm just saying I preferred the Scousers of the '80s to this modern lot. I even preferred that late '90s version with Fowler the Prowler and McManamanamanamanaman. As I say, you used to know where you were with them. Now all I know if they've brought the country's most expensive ever striker and got worse. And they didn't even have the excuse of flogging Rush to Juve for 3 mil.

{Thinking about it, it is quite scary that I can name more '80s Scousers than I can name non-AFC players in the PL atm. I've been quite lucky that two of the ones who most stood out - Dec and Easy - have both signed for us. As I said, I'd never even heard of Noni or Kai.}

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Yes, that is the 80 million quid keeper. The Gravenberch chap, or whatever his ****ing name is, is a decent player.

Dalglish was an absolute ****. Not really relevant, but I felt it needed saying :-)

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What position does this Gravadlax play, then?

And two things about Dalglish. One, if he'd played for us we'd sing his name forever like with Chippy and Bergy. Two, he had the decency to lose Anfield '89 to us. In Hillsborough year. When they'd already won the cup. And hadn't lost by 2 goals at home for a couple of years. See, P? He's a good man. Knew we were his betters and rolled over accordingly.

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Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult

What position does this Gravadlax play, then?

And two things about Dalglish. One, if he'd played for us we'd sing his name forever like with Chippy and Bergy. Two, he had the decency to lose Anfield '89 to us. In Hillsborough year. When they'd already won the cup. And hadn't lost by 2 goals at home for a couple of years. See, P? He's a good man. Knew we were his betters and rolled over accordingly.

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Sorry, I intensely dislike the man. And nobody rolled over. We rolled them over. George knew :-)

The Gravel bloke is a midfielder.

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Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult

Oh, don't come over all Farragist on me, PJ. Daveed, Big Willy, Big Gabby etc are Gooners. Therefore Barnes, Beardsley and Rush are Scousers.

Glad you made your solicitor happy. But I'm just saying I preferred the Scousers of the '80s to this modern lot. I even preferred that late '90s version with Fowler the Prowler and McManamanamanamanaman. As I say, you used to know where you were with them. Now all I know if they've brought the country's most expensive ever striker and got worse. And they didn't even have the excuse of flogging Rush to Juve for 3 mil.

{Thinking about it, it is quite scary that I can name more '80s Scousers than I can name non-AFC players in the PL atm. I've been quite lucky that two of the ones who most stood out - Dec and Easy - have both signed for us. As I said, I'd never even heard of Noni or Kai.}

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You?re just showing your age, Ganps. I could probably name stuff in the charts back in the 80?s , even the **** stuff, which was most of it, whereas; I?ve no idea if pop charts exist any longer.