A list of signings/loans whilst Mr Arteta has been in charge.

Out of this list who's actually been worth while. there are a few obvious ones but who's actually improved?
There are also some shocking players on that list.

Declan Rice
Kai Havertz
Ben White
Gabriel Jesus
Thomas Partey
Riccardo Calafiori
Jurrien Timber
Martin Odegaard
Fabio Vieira
Oleksandr Zinchenko
Mikel Merino
David Raya
Aaron Ramsdale
Gabriel Magalh?es
Leandro Trossard
Jakub Kiwior
Takehiro Tomiyasu
Albert Sambi Lokonga
Jorginho
Pablo Mari
Nuno Tavares
Matt Turner
Marquinhos
Alex Runarsson
Auston Trusty
Cedric
Willian
Matt Ryan
Neto
Raheem Sterling

[QUOTE=Pat Vegas;4281271]Out of this list who's actually been worth while. there are a few obvious ones but who's actually improved?
There are also some shocking players on that list.

Declan Rice - Don't think he's shown his best this season, he needs a proper break!
Kai Havertz - Yes, definitely
Ben White - Yes
Gabriel Jesus - No but did raise the standards required to challenge
Thomas Partey - Not at right back
Riccardo Calafiori - Jury out
Jurrien Timber - Yes, defintely
Martin Odegaard - Yes, although think the early season injury has hampered him. Looks a yard off
Fabio Vieira - Meh
Oleksandr Zinchenko - as per Jesus, would sell now though
Mikel Merino - Okay but seems to slow eveything down and still pissed at him missing that sitter at Brighton just before their penalty
David Raya - yes, although was poor last night
Aaron Ramsdale - Raya is marginally better but do feel for the lad.
Gabriel Magalh?es - Yes
Leandro Trossard - Sub only, not a starter
Jakub Kiwior - Okay but not good enough for title winners
Takehiro Tomiyasu - Too injured
Albert Sambi Lokonga - Nah
Jorginho - Served a purpose
Pablo Mari - Nah
Nuno Tavares - Nah
Matt Turner - Nah
Marquinhos - Nah
Alex Runarsson - Nah with bells on
Auston Trusty - Who?
Cedric - Served a purpose
Willian - Dreadful
Matt Ryan - Nah
Neto - Nah
Raheem Sterling - said it was a stupid signing at the time

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Originally Posted by Pat Vegas

Out of this list who's actually been worth while. there are a few obvious ones but who's actually improved?
There are also some shocking players on that list.

Declan Rice - Don't think he's shown his best this season, he needs a proper break!
Kai Havertz - Yes, definitely
Ben White - Yes
Gabriel Jesus - No but did raise the standards required to challenge
Thomas Partey - Not at right back
Riccardo Calafiori - Jury out
Jurrien Timber - Yes, defintely
Martin Odegaard - Yes, although think the early season injury has hampered him. Looks a yard off
Fabio Vieira - Meh
Oleksandr Zinchenko - as per Jesus, would sell now though
Mikel Merino - Okay but seems to slow eveything down and still pissed at him missing that sitter at Brighton just before their penalty
David Raya - yes, although was poor last night
Aaron Ramsdale - Raya is marginally better but do feel for the lad.
Gabriel Magalh?es - Yes
Leandro Trossard - Sub only, not a starter
Jakub Kiwior - Okay but not good enough for title winners
Takehiro Tomiyasu - Too injured
Albert Sambi Lokonga - Nah
Jorginho - Served a purpose
Pablo Mari - Nah
Nuno Tavares - Nah
Matt Turner - Nah
Marquinhos - Nah
Alex Runarsson - Nah with bells on
Auston Trusty - Who?
Cedric - Served a purpose
Willian - Dreadful
Matt Ryan - Nah
Neto - Nah
Raheem Sterling - said it was a stupid signing at the time

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The only bad signing in the top half of the list is Vieira. The rest sit between good and excellent and all the 'shockers' are at the bottom of the list, as loans, free signings or cheap buys where we got our money back.

Whatever you think of Ramsdale, for example, he was really good for us for a couple of years and he left because we managed to find better. No problem with that!

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The only bad signing in the top half of the list is Vieira. The rest sit between good and excellent and all the 'shockers' are at the bottom of the list, as loans, free signings or cheap buys where we got our money back.

Whatever you think of Ramsdale, for example, he was really good for us for a couple of years and he left because we managed to find better. No problem with that!

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Raheem Sterling is the worst on the list. Alleged 'pedigree' v actual delivered = ****ing awful

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Raheem Sterling is the worst on the list. Alleged 'pedigree' v actual delivered = ****ing awful

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Quite an achievement to be worse than Willian.

Still not totally given up on Vieira, there's definitely a talent there, just not sure he's physically up to the PL.

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Raheem Sterling is the worst on the list. Alleged 'pedigree' v actual delivered = ****ing awful

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Give him a chance. He might still do something. Either way, he hasnt been as bad as Willian!

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Auston Trusty - Who?

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Trusty the Process innit

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The only bad signing in the top half of the list is Vieira. The rest sit between good and excellent and all the 'shockers' are at the bottom of the list, as loans, free signings or cheap buys where we got our money back.

Whatever you think of Ramsdale, for example, he was really good for us for a couple of years and he left because we managed to find better. No problem with that!

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And for all that, we did come within a mere couple of points and goals of the title.

Well done, Mikel. Onward and upward!

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And for all that, we did come within a mere couple of points and goals of the title.

Well done, Mikel. Onward and upward!

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Well, onward anyway. :-)

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Give him a chance. He might still do something. Either way, he hasnt been as bad as Willian!

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He's been every bit as bad, p, if not worserer.

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He's been every bit as bad, p, if not worserer.

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Sorry, no! He has scored a few goals, made a few runs, even a tackle. Willian quickly reached the stage where a 5 yard pass to a static unmarked colleague was an upturn in performance.

I'm willing to give him a chance.

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Sorry, no! He has scored a few goals, made a few runs, even a tackle. Willian quickly reached the stage where a 5 yard pass to a static unmarked colleague was an upturn in performance.

I'm willing to give him a chance.

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Sterling? He's not scored or done anything or do you mean Vieira?

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Sterling? He's not scored or done anything or do you mean Vieira?

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Could apply to both, but I meant Sterling.

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Sterling? He's not scored or done anything or do you mean Vieira?

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Sterling. One goal and two assists.

Plus there was a covering run that was great but I cant remember which game :hehe:

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Sterling. One goal and two assists.

Plus there was a covering run that was great but I cant remember which game :hehe:

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I take it all back, then... :rolleyes:

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I take it all back, then... :rolleyes:

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And two of those goal contributions were in the EFL Cup. See, he can even cope with the dodgy ball :hehe:

I have the stats for Willian

Games: 36
Goals: 1
Performance level: Utter c**t

:-)

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Sterling. One goal and two assists.

Plus there was a covering run that was great but I cant remember which game :hehe:

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And one very stupid hairdo. I told you it would be the end of us, the end of discipline.

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See, he can even cope with the dodgy ball :hehe:

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it's because that ball is dodgy, that he did alright with it.

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it's because that ball is dodgy, that he did alright with it.

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Or because we were playing against lower league ****e :-)

Anyway... give the lad a chance. He's played a total of 400 minutes, spread across 11 games and four months.

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Or because we were playing against lower league ****e :-)

Anyway... give the lad a chance. He's played a total of 400 minutes, spread across 11 games and four months.

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He would be really good in a thirty-man squad (same as Liverpool and Spurs). With only 24 players though, he (and we) can seem lightweight and exposed.

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He's been every bit as bad, p, if not worserer.

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No-one is worserer than Willian. It would be like if Gervinho was 34, given ?350k a week, and was a Chelsea reject. Without him, we could have tried Saka earlier and given more minutes to Reiss, who for all his faults, has produced far more end product than Willian ever did.

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Raheem Sterling is the worst on the list. Alleged 'pedigree' v actual delivered = ****ing awful

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I stand by this statement...

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I stand by this statement...

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You can't rehash this every time Sterling has a bad game. I mean, it's twice a week :-)

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No-one is worserer than Willian. It would be like if Gervinho was 34, given ?350k a week, and was a Chelsea reject. Without him, we could have tried Saka earlier and given more minutes to Reiss, who for all his faults, has produced far more end product than Willian ever did.

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Everton allegedly interested in signing Willian on a free!

Have their fans not suffered enough?!

Thought they were going to blow that 3-0 lead!