Im still not buying into this Scouse dream just yet.

They’re a top side but they’ve been gifted the most generous run of fixtures.
Aside from nicking a point at a patched up Arsenal, they‘ve yet to play away at any team in the top 10.
For context, following this weekend’s game away at Chelsea, we‘ll have played away at 6 of the top 10 grounds.
Even their next two games are away to Southampton and home to Villa.
They’re making hay and getting an added boost by a weakened City and Arsenal.
On the plus side, they’re gaining a fortress mentality from every win.
They‘re still likely to hit the skids at some point, as fixtures will balance out, although probably not until December.

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They’re a top side but they’ve been gifted the most generous run of fixtures.
Aside from nicking a point at a patched up Arsenal, they‘ve yet to play away at any team in the top 10.
For context, following this weekend’s game away at Chelsea, we‘ll have played away at 6 of the top 10 grounds.
Even their next two games are away to Southampton and home to Villa.
They’re making hay and getting an added boost by a weakened City and Arsenal.
On the plus side, they’re gaining a fortress mentality from every win.
They‘re still likely to hit the skids at some point, as fixtures will balance out, although probably not until December.

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When did you become the voice of reason, 7? Can't argue with any of that - and tbf, a lot of Liverpool supporters I known are saying the same

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When did you become the voice of reason, 7? Can't argue with any of that - and tbf, a lot of Liverpool supporters I known are saying the same

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It’s been a long road, LA :-)

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It’s been a long road, LA :-)

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Apt for 7sisters ;) Remember the walk from the Railway to White Hart line back in the day - definitely a long road

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When did you become the voice of reason, 7? Can't argue with any of that - and tbf, a lot of Liverpool supporters I known are saying the same

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What happened with your drink with the Geordie Kiwi? What did he think about beating my boys 3-0 at home? If they can do that, we could be in trouble when we play them. I guess they must have had better spinners than us, but have they still got enough decent quicks to cause us serious problems?

Hopefully it was just the Goddesses and Gods punishing India for supporting Hindutva fascism and allowing Modi to name the world's largest cricket stadium after himself. Like They made Ind lose the WC final so Modi didn't get the photo opp of handing the trophy to India at his own stadium with the election coming up 6 months later. Only dictators name stadia after themselves.

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When did you become the voice of reason, 7? Can't argue with any of that - and tbf, a lot of Liverpool supporters I known are saying the same

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They are fair points, but.... bear in mind this is a side with a recent history of sustaining a challenge, and they put in the first two thirds of one last season. I still think City will win the league but if they do suffer a big drop in form, Liverpool will be there. I am not convinced we will be.

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What happened with your drink with the Geordie Kiwi? What did he think about beating my boys 3-0 at home? If they can do that, we could be in trouble when we play them. I guess they must have had better spinners than us, but have they still got enough decent quicks to cause us serious problems?

Hopefully it was just the Goddesses and Gods punishing India for supporting Hindutva fascism and allowing Modi to name the world's largest cricket stadium after himself. Like They made Ind lose the WC final so Modi didn't get the photo opp of handing the trophy to India at his own stadium with the election coming up 6 months later. Only dictators name stadia after themselves.

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Very happy with the cricket - but as we talked about it, would be a risk if NZ produced turners at home. Likely to be greener pitches which should suit us as well. Should be a good contest. Was thinking of going out there as I am planning to go to Oz for Christmas. Wouldn't actually mind catching some of the Australia India series - at the moment though think it could be quite one-sided

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They are fair points, but.... bear in mind this is a side with a recent history of sustaining a challenge, and they put in the first two thirds of one last season. I still think City will win the league but if they do suffer a big drop in form, Liverpool will be there. I am not convinced we will be.

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A recent history of sustaining a challenge? You might want to look at the last two seasons.- the team you constantly disparage have been much better than Liverpool over the past two years

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A recent history of sustaining a challenge? You might want to look at the last two seasons.- the team you constantly disparage have been much better than Liverpool over the past two years

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We need another Dubai break

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A recent history of sustaining a challenge? You might want to look at the last two seasons.- the team you constantly disparage have been much better than Liverpool over the past two years

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Yes, over the last two years we have been the better side. I also remember this time two years ago everybody saying the same things about us- haven't played anyone good, false position, won't sustain it. In the end we did rather better than anyone expected and if City had slipped a bit we might have won the league.

This Liverpool squad is better prepared to sustain it than we were two years ago.

And at the start of the season I would have said we were far better positioned than them this season. But we are 10 games in and look at how we are performing......

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Yes, over the last two years we have been the better side. I also remember this time two years ago everybody saying the same things about us- haven't played anyone good, false position, won't sustain it. In the end we did rather better than anyone expected and if City had slipped a bit we might have won the league.

This Liverpool squad is better prepared to sustain it than we were two years ago.

And at the start of the season I would have said we were far better positioned than them this season. But we are 10 games in and look at how we are performing......

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Much better than you appear to think - we've played the four other best team in the country (as per last season's league table), three away from home and not lost one of them. With our captain and best player missing. We are not actually that bad

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Much better than you appear to think - we've played the four other best team in the country (as per last season's league table), three away from home and not lost one of them. With our captain and best player missing. We are not actually that bad

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No, we are not that bad. :-)

But our performances across the 10 games have not been good enough, and have been getting worse. There is a problem. It is foolish to ignore it. and although we haven't lost those games against the top teams we have managed to lose at Bournemouth and Newcastle while struggling to put away the likes of Leicester and Southampton at home. The three tough away games were earlier in the season. If we played those game now we would lose.

I still think we will come good but I am afraid we are in a similar position to last season- and like last season, if we do come storming back after Christmas it is likely to be too late, again.

I'm only interested in performances at the moment. Until we start performing better over 90 minutes there is no point in talking about titles and league positions. We need to get back to the side that we are because this isn't it.

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Very happy with the cricket - but as we talked about it, would be a risk if NZ produced turners at home. Likely to be greener pitches which should suit us as well. Should be a good contest. Was thinking of going out there as I am planning to go to Oz for Christmas. Wouldn't actually mind catching some of the Australia India series - at the moment though think it could be quite one-sided

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My lads did win in Aus last time and Washington Sundar did really well from memory. He didn't play in the 1st NZ test but in the second he got 11 wickets at 10.5 and 39 runs for out once. In the 3rd test, he got 5 wickets at 22 and 50 runs for out once.

So averaging 44 with the bat and 14 with the ball in a losing side isn't bad and as I say, he did ok on Aus pitches with bat and ball last time. In the final test which they won to win the series, he got 62 in the first innings, and with time running out on the last day, scored a quick 22 in partnership with Pant so when he was out, only 10 was needed from 4 overs when it had looked all day that India had batted too slowly.

तिनकों को पकड़ना

tinakon ko pakadana

{Apparently that's 'clutching at straws' in Hindi.}

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My lads did win in Aus last time and Washington Sundar did really well from memory. He didn't play in the 1st NZ test but in the second he got 11 wickets at 10.5 and 39 runs for out once. In the 3rd test, he got 5 wickets at 22 and 50 runs for out once.

So averaging 44 with the bat and 14 with the ball in a losing side isn't bad and as I say, he did ok on Aus pitches with bat and ball last time. In the final test which they won to win the series, he got 62 in the first innings, and with time running out on the last day, scored a quick 22 in partnership with Pant so when he was out, only 10 was needed from 4 overs when it had looked all day that India had batted too slowly.

तिनकों को पकड़ना

tinakon ko pakadana

{Apparently that's 'clutching at straws' in Hindi.}

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I loved that India win in Australia. Great stuff :-)

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I loved that India win in Australia. Great stuff :-)

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Yup. What's gutting from an Indian perspective is that they won in India in our winter and then were 2-1 up with one to play in England, against a totally beaten pre-Bazball England team. Then Shastri went to a launch of his book and brought back Covid. So the series was officially ended, they played the last game the next year when we were Bazballing it and we won.

So that goes down as a drawn series - as opposed to India beating Aus then Eng away - all cos Shastri wanted to try to sell a few more copies.

Insane. Firstly, how many people in this country would buy his book, and how many more copies did he sell as a result? And secondly, as the main presenter on the IPL, the BCCI must pay him a fortune. It's not like he has to drive a rickshaw on the side to make ends meet.

So while we know India beat us at home, that's not what the record books say. He ruined would have been a unique double - I'm sure they've never beaten both Aus and Eng away in a year before - just in the hope of making a few extra quid.

SHÏT. They've scored a penalty that BBC radio says should never have been given.

Great. Parvati has totally sorted me out today, She should do it for the rest of AWIMB.

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Yup. What's gutting from an Indian perspective is that they won in India in our winter and then were 2-1 up with one to play in England, against a totally beaten pre-Bazball England team. Then Shastri went to a launch of his book and brought back Covid. So the series was officially ended, they played the last game the next year when we were Bazballing it and we won.

So that goes down as a drawn series - as opposed to India beating Aus then Eng away - all cos Shastri wanted to try to sell a few more copies.

Insane. Firstly, how many people in this country would buy his book, and how many more copies did he sell as a result? And secondly, as the main presenter on the IPL, the BCCI must pay him a fortune. It's not like he has to drive a rickshaw on the side to make ends meet.

So while we know India beat us at home, that's not what the record books say. He ruined would have been a unique double - I'm sure they've never beaten both Aus and Eng away in a year before - just in the hope of making a few extra quid.

SHÏT. They've scored a penalty that BBC radio says should never have been given.

Great. Parvati has totally sorted me out today, She should do it for the rest of AWIMB.

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I thought it was a penalty. They are all saying it wouldn't be given in the Premier league but.... well, anything can happen with our refs...

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I thought it was a penalty. They are all saying it wouldn't be given in the Premier league but.... well, anything can happen with our refs...

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Their keeper cleaning Merino out was a clearer foul. I always liked Sommer on FIFA as well.

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Their keeper cleaning Merino out was a clearer foul. I always liked Sommer on FIFA as well.

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So a keeper can't punch an opponent in the head these days?? Game has gone :-)

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So a keeper can't punch an opponent in the head these days?? Game has gone :-)

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lol. Yes, and no. All we want is consistency.