Arteta out ?
Arteta out ?
:( It's only the Rumbelow's; not our competition.
Just hope the performance doesn't derail us.
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Originally Posted by 7sisters
At least Nketiah has discovered his level. £30m to Leeds or Ipswich in the summer ?Quote:
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Havertz
Jorginho
Vieira
Trossard
Zinchenko
Utter dog **** tonight.
Ramsdale a bit unlucky imo
Saliba is the absolute glue in that defence, they all look clueless without him.Quote:
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Agree on Rammers, he saves that 3rd without the deflection and the 1st doesn't given with VAR
Meh, milk cup, who cares?Quote:
Originally Posted by 7sisters
Was always going to be difficult away from home and Moyes really had them dug in and set to defend. They were well up for it and got lucky twice. I'd be willing to bet that Trossard, Eddie, Nelson, Havertz and Vieira had never played together before - it certainly looked like it.
The really bad news is that ESR is injured AGAIN - 3 weeks appazza :-(
Sad news. He’s turning into another Tierney, and we all know how that ends.Quote:
Originally Posted by WES
Talking of left backs, inverted or otherwise, Zinchenko is a complete liability.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7sisters
Havertz reminds me a bit of Bendtner, tries hard, does a lot of the right things but severely lacking in end product. The main difference is that we knew that about Havertz before spunking £67.5m. James Maddison cost Spurs £40m.
Ramsdale incredibly unlucky last night.
Can't believe Mikey risked Saka and Martinelli when the game was already lost.
Right, the captain too. I can only imagine it was about appearance money?
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As soon as the 3rd went in I wanted Rice off.Quote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo
How do the players really feel about this sort of thing? Surely THEY know when the game is up?
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:-\ On a hiding to nothing last night.
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West Ham did seem to think it was a cup final. Bet they drop points at the weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo
I am also surprised that no one is mentioning quite how absolutely ****ing gash the ref was. Rotational fouling all match, Alvarez made at least 4 fouls without ref even having a word and blatant foul for their 1st.
I wasn't remotely interested in the result but was pretty bloody unhappy about him bringing on Saka and the Martins when it was bloody obvious the game was lost.Quote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo
I do hope Zinchenko doesn't play at Newcastle.Quote:
Originally Posted by pjlincs
Havertz is still in a phase where he doesn't really do anything. Takes up rather innocuous positions, receives the ball and shovels it straight back. I think it will be a while before we see the best of him, and even that might not be that great. Not at all convinced he is right for the role.
And why are we wet nursing a player valued at 67m ? Appreciate he doesn’t set the transfer fee but 67mil ?? He should be close to the finished article at his age and that fee. Shocking signing so far..Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
We are asking him to do something different in a team that is set up a certain way and very precisely coached. It isn't easy.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7sisters
That said, you would like to think he will start producing something fairly soon. As far as wet nursing is concerned, if he has grown into the role in 3 months time then none of this will matter.
I wouldn't have bought him, but then I don't really know what I am talking about. Arteta has made me look very stupid several times in recent years so I am going to trust him on this one.....
Not saying much but I thought he was one of our best players in the 1st half.....2nd half, anonymous.Quote:
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The one thing Arteta and the fans need at this stage is a trophy in order to keep building momentum. To go without silverware for another season with this assembled array of talent at their prime will invite more criticism and cries of bottlers.Quote:
Originally Posted by PSRB
City were out of this competition, which left a reasonable open road to Wembley. Pep has won the beer cup on numerous occasions and I’m confident that both Klopp & Howe will look to grab the opportunity.
I don’t know if we win anything else this season. We look to be slightly better placed than the last one, and while none of us are massively disappointed, last night punctuated our reliance on the first choice 11 and a decent opportunity lost.
Um, 7s, you are aware that in our previous match our second choice no. 9 scored a hat trick and a superb hat trick at that?Quote:
Originally Posted by 7sisters
We clearly have more depth this year than last. Last night was not a tweak of our first 11, it was a wholesale change (arguably only White and Gabriel are in the first 11) and we paid the price for it.
I can't speak for other fans but wining a domestic cup would mean literally **** all to me. I want to see us progressing, staying in touch with the top 2 or 3 and coping with the champions league. That is progress.Quote:
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Very true.Quote:
Originally Posted by WES
Hmmm, agree partially - a league challenge and going as far in the CL as possible are the most important things to me, it's what I missed most in the latter Wenger years. Being out of the league in Dec is depressing, getting hammered 10-1 by Munich in the first knockout round of the CL equally so.Quote:
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However I love the FA Cup, as much as I am indifferent to the League Cup. Mind you, I'd take a CL semi-final over an FA Cup win if I had to choose.
Agreed. Though one cannot help but feel things have changed since we signed Big Dec; not sure we're in a position to merely settle for anything any longer.
Or how many MORE hundred-million pound players do we need :-\
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Mikel is on his very first managerial assignment; I'm not sure WE will be the club to see the very best of him
:-|
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Originally Posted by 7sisters
If I'm being honest, I don't care much for the Champions League either :-) that is mainly because the format is dull and for bloody years we were not really good enough to compete in it. It is the one competition we simply must win at some point.Quote:
Originally Posted by WES