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If things are back to normal in the spring then football will become football again.
And we're really, really poor. I mean like bad. NFG. As bad as I can remember. Badder than a team containing Martin Hayes and Ian Allinson. Worser than a team with Chris Whyte at centre half. :-(
It's a piss poor outlook and no mistake.
I remember being at a match once when George Graham brought on the mighty Nial Quinn and then took him off again because he was so bad - now that was piss poor
Chris Whyte won the league at Leeds. Can't see our donkeys achieving that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Correct. Chris Whyte is nowhere near the worst centre-back we've seen in the past 50 years. He was a decent player who had the misfortune to play for us at a time when the defence was given no protection from a powder-puff midfield containing the likes of Rix, Davis and the vastly over-rated Steve Williams. Even our best midfielder at the time, Brian Talbot, was at his most effective going forward. David O'Leary looked ordinary during those years, when he had appeared a world-beater in his early time with the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
That honour belongs to Thomas Vermaelen. The over-rated, sh�*t****.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yesterday Once More
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Originally Posted by Sir C
Sorry, not having that. Without Allinson there would have been no WHL 1987 and Hayes was part of Anfield '89. As for Chris Whyte, a lovely bloke as well as a League champion - just don't take a cheque from him.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
He improved when his hair started falling out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganpati's Goonerz--AFC's Aboriginal Fertility Cult
Not even close. Just off the top of my head Pascal Cygan, Igor Stepanovs, Sebastien Squillaci and Mikael Silvestre were all worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by IUFG2
A player who left us to join a prime Barca is our worst ever CB? Not for me Clive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
No. Cygan was responsible for one of my fave ever moments. Winning 3-1 at Roma.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
!-0 down after 4 mins. Then we equalise through Titi 1 min later. Later in the first half, Totti shoots. You see the goal. The keeper's beaten and it's going into an empty net on the far side. Then, as if by magic, Cygan's bald head appeared in the shot from nowhere and he cleared it off the line.
2 more for Titi in the 2nd half. Heroic win. All down to Pascal's magically appearing from nowhere. Far better defender that the 3 Ss you mention.
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Originally Posted by Sir C
A thread about bad defenders and no mention of the great Gus Caesar
Not so. Maybe Squillaci was close.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
TV5 scored on his debut in a rout and we got our hopes up. Then there was that awful performance against Chelsea and he just got steadily worse.
He then, bizarrely, went to Barca and did fúck all, other than being unable to drive into their car park properly. Sums him up...
Do you know, I rather suspect that when I typed Chris Whyte I was actually thinking of Gus Caeser. Poor old Gus. Nick Hornby made him famous for being rubbish. :-(Quote:
Originally Posted by Alberto Balsam Rodriguez
Just because a man has a terrible game in a cup final, he only gets remembered for that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alberto Balsam Rodriguez
Fair enough imo.
Cygan was far from a dreadful defender. In fact, on a couple of occasions he was the only player in our team who exhibited some self-belief and a pair of cojones. Am I thinking about a home game against Chelsea when we looked beaten before kick off?Quote:
Originally Posted by IUFG2
To be fair, Barcelona bought a number of our players when they were either past their sell-by date, knackered or hadn't quite hacked it with us. I sometimes got the feeling they did it just to annoy us.Quote:
Originally Posted by IUFG2
Wasn't Vermaelen rumoured to have had a particularly ruinous habit?
Never said he was dreadful. Just that he was worse than Vermaelen. What was that game where Cygan scored two late goals?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Golly yes, I was on the north bank for that game... he was serenaded as Pascal Zidane. Or Zinedine Cygan, I remember not. Nor could I say who were the opposition. In short, I've gone all Alzheimery.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
I was there as well, but was at the Clock End. I seem to remember it was a midweek game, but this could be nonsense. No idea as to the opposition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
This is the sort of situation where la could actually make himself useful for once.
I believe it's his birthday today, and as it is now after midday in der Vaterland he is currently a drooling mess, but God willing he may not yet have soiled himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Fulham. Balmy Wednesday evening?Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Dennis Bergkamp :love: - oh yesQuote:
Originally Posted by IUFG2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkmL9OmskXk
Pascal on fire, tbf
Despite being off work I am waiting for confirmation of something from the US, hence I am only a half-dribbling mess so farQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Happy birthday la! Is it the Big 50 this year?Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
That's the one. Maybe I was in the North Bank. :rubchin:Quote:
Originally Posted by IUFG2
Reyes :cry:
At 8.30 there is a moment of Hleb at his pathologically gunshy best. :hehe:
hblaahbamimoQuote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
Ty sir c. A mere 49 this year. One more the big oneQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Thank you bQuote:
Originally Posted by Burney
49 again, eh? ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
You young people, eh? We’ll have a lovely times with your friends.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
la is four years younger than Nicole Kidman. Makes you think, doesn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Mind you, Ms Kidman appears not to have aged in 20-odd years, to be fair. She's just got less mobile. I suspect if she ever smiled now, her face would crack like a piece of porcelain.
Ah yes Happy Birthday :thumbup: Always remember it :cough: facebookQuote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
I expect la’s looking his age now. The abuse he’s put his body through will be showing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Fair point. He looked a steal when we bought him, especially considering Rio Ferdinand's price-tag, that same Summer. Time (amongst other things) somewhat modified that view though :-\
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Originally Posted by Sir C
Alles gute zum Geburtstag!
Zum vohl! :guinness::guinness:
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Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
Cheers b - I had a few drinks for youQuote:
Originally Posted by barrybueno
Compared to the picture someone posted on Facebook from about my 40th, I look like a spring chicken. German beer is good for youQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
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Originally Posted by redgunamo
Vielen dank, r