I appreciate the piece is paywalled, but the headline tells you everything you need to know. :hehe:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/n...nds-ffjdlvc8k#
I appreciate the piece is paywalled, but the headline tells you everything you need to know. :hehe:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/n...nds-ffjdlvc8k#
There is that, but I think it's more that even moderate remainers regard the revoke A50 policy as extremist and anti-democratic.
Plus, a lot of floating voters have probably only just realised she scotch. Importatnt to remember that no party whose leader has a celtic fringe accent has been elected since the advent of mass media. We just don't want 'em in charge.
This is where you and I differ... you seem to think they are stupid for standing for their beliefs and should change tac as it means they won't be elected (or get close).
I think that if they want to stand for what they think is right then do it, there are a large number of voters who will agree with them (not enough for them to make a difference).
The 2 main party's will lie and make false claims to the electorate to get in then spend the next 5 years failing to deliver on them.
Oh, please! Don't give me the 'Lib Dems are principled and honourable' bit. They facilitated this election purely for short-term party gain when their most obvious route to remain was to keep Boris nominally in power, but impotent. They sold the 'Remain Coalition' up the river for a few more seats and if it doesn't work for them, I'll laugh my head off.
If Corbyn gets into no. 10 by means of an agreement with the vile Scotch midget and the anti-democratic liberals, it won't matter where you are. Comrade McDonnell's securitate/stasi/KGB mash up will find you and ensure that you are untainted by the evils of wrongthink.
There are so many to choose from. However, I think Alastair Campbell, Nick Cohen, David Aaronovitch, EU Supergirl and that ridiculous Femi individual have to be up there, though.
I think Jorge is a classic example of being on the echo chamber of twitter does to one. He was always obviously wrong about everything, but on here he got plenty of pushback on his nonsense and it probably tempered his excesses. On there he almost only ever spouts his nonsense to people who agree with him, which has made him genuinely insufferable.
Jorge said the same thing about the country when 52% voted to leave. As did many others, who seem to genuinely consider that 52% of voters are fascists for wishing to be a sovereign state. Of course those voters are not fascists and nor are labour voters anti-semites or stalinists and all the rest of it. Brexit is not fascism and a Corbyn government would not be communism, however much it seems to suit some to keep repeating this claim loudly and often. :-(
Yes, but on a turnout of 69% rather than 66% in 2917 and not in the crucial swing seats. They got hugely more votes in Brexit voting constituencies from non-traditional Tory voters (boosting their overall count), but failed to get the core vote out in marginals and even some relatively safe seats.
He retweeted something along the lines of 'explain to me how selling our health service to the Americans is good but free broadband and child care is bad'.
I'm sorry, I can respect different opinions if they have even a semblance of intellectual rigour behind them, but garbage like that is so stupid that I can only assume anyone that utters it (or retweets it) is either extraordinarily stupid or utterly insane.
:hehe: I love the idea of 'selling our NHS to the USA'. How would that sales pitch go? "I say, we have here this lovely, Stalinist system that offers terrible health outcomes, costs more than the GDP of many small countries, has purchasing practices no business would even consider, is quite monstrously inefficient and employs more people than the Chinese Army. Fancy buying it?' :hehe:
He is, of course. But - and I think this is crucial - I don't think he thinks he is. So what he's saying is what he actually believes and he presumably therefore imagines his arguments to have some validity, so I think your rudeness to WES is unmerited on this occasion.
You're doing exactly what you are objecting to, Ash. I don't think anyone considers the 52% to be fascists, and equally, it is disingenuous to suggest that all Leave voters simply wanted to be a sovereign state. BTW, you should try telling Italians, Germans and the French that they aren't living in a sovereign state, I think loads of them would be really surprised to find out that that is true.
Equally, I think very few people consider Corbyn, McDonnell et al to be communists, they just use the term for effect, to illustrate how far left the current version of the Labour has really gone. I don't consider them communists or even Marxists but their economic policies genuinely terrify me such would be the impact on the economy.
I'm old enough to remember England in the early to mid 70s and I don't ever want to go back there. Nor should you.