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And yet it seems he's gonna walk straight back into the Real Madrid job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
I want him to suffer - it's not fair :-(
it will be a fúcking madness if he gets that gig again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
The other plus side is that after that travesty there is no way those jammy f*ckers can have any luck left whatsoever for Sunday afternoon. They used up about 20 years worth last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
Arsenal 0-2 Munichs :-(
Sadly I agree :(Quote:
Originally Posted by WES
:nod: they could send their wheelchair team and still beat usQuote:
Originally Posted by WES
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Winter was surprisingly objective this morning. While you got the usual overstatement and irrational, emotive conclusions, there was also the recognition that all three goals were handed to them by PSG and the referee.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
I could actually read parts of it without wanting to kill him.
Real are going to take some time to get back to the level they were though. He'll get **** straight away (but more money)Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
I read the first sentence and wanted to vomit - couldn't get past thatQuote:
Originally Posted by WES
In addition to football and PSG, the other loser last night was VAR.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
I've never been a fan for a variety of reasons but last night perfectly highlighted one of them. How in f*ck's name can it be deliberate when your arm is in a natural position, your back is turned and there is no motion towards the ball?
Unbelievable.
Easier job now though? What, with Ronaldo gone, Messi not getting any younger..
Unai said the other day that essentially the modern professional football manager suffers because he cannot tolerate sharing the limelight, even with his own superstar players.
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Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
Agreed.
But, footballistically, any defender turning his back in that situation is simply asking for it. And they know it and they're just trying it on.
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Originally Posted by WES
Depends on who they buy really. They (well Mourinho and Perez) would need a Galactico plus a whole lot more, yet they are spending 500 million on a roof - all a bit bizarre reallyQuote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo
Indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by WES
113 Handling the ball
Handling the ball involves a deliberate act of a player making contact with the ball with his hand or arm.
The referee must take the following into consideration:
• the movement of the hand towards the ball (not the ball towards the hand)
• the distance between the opponent and the ball (unexpected ball)
• the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an infringement
• touching the ball with an object held in the hand (clothing, shinguard, etc.) counts as an infringement
• hitting the ball with a thrown object (boot, shinguard, etc.) counts as an infringement
oh yes, deffo pelanty. not even sure why VAR was necessary :rolleyes:
I would guess they wouild argue that turning your back to the ball is an un-natural position so hitting your arm/hand in that case would mean a pen.... looking forward to 50% more pens next season and ganes lasting 115 minutesQuote:
Originally Posted by IUFG
it all starts with a deliberate act, how would VAR be able to prove that? It certainly couldn't last night, imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pokster
It should just be - if the ball hits an arm or hand, its a pelanty. No ambiguity there.
It would make for some interesting shot choices in the box too
I suspect that VAR will just remove the seemingly arbitrary, inconsistent and random decision making from the man on the pitch (Mike Dean) to the head of the refs (Mike Riley).Quote:
Originally Posted by WES
As there is absolutely no corruption or bias in human society, especially where large amounts of money, prestige and glory are involved, we can least be assured that the officials are fair and impartial. :thumbup:
The key word here is, of course, "deliberate". Soccerball players are selected for their ability to play the game without the use of their hands (as opposed to foreign rugby players, for instance. And some goalkeepers).
Therefore, it closely follows that any time the ball comes into to contact with an outfield player's hand or arm, it may be judged a "deliberate" act, despite the fact that, ordinarily, it may well have been considered accidental.
The real question is, If the defender isn't even looking at the ball, then why, the fück, isn't he?!?! What the hell is he even doing on a football pitch?!
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Originally Posted by IUFG
That's the thing, after those two, there really aren't any true rain-makers around for them to buy. It will be all about actually coaching the team, getting the best out of the players again
And we know he's very good at that :-\
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Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
You're not advocating ball-watching are you redg? The pundocracy have strong views about that sort of thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo