'tell the real story'.
HOW CAN IT WHEN THE DOG IS GOING TO BE CALLED 'DIGGER', FFS?!
Poor old NÃ*gger is being written out of history. Typical racism.
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'tell the real story'.
HOW CAN IT WHEN THE DOG IS GOING TO BE CALLED 'DIGGER', FFS?!
Poor old NÃ*gger is being written out of history. Typical racism.
:furious:
Is it actually happening? It's been spoken about for years. Last I heard it was being written by Stephen Fry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
They're going to struggle for airworthy Lancasters imo.
He claims it will. Apparently, he owns a bunch of old warbirds. Don't imagine he has a Lanc among them, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/20...ll-real-story/
New Zealand is warbird central, for some reason. Perhaps their regulatory authorities are particulalry sympathetic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
No mention of Stephen Fry, thank God.
I imagine they remain well preserved by virtue of the fact that the place is about 40 years behind the rest of the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
CGI will take care of that little issue :hehe: Millennial morons will lap it up no doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
tactical failure that stopped production for a paltry 3 days and was effectively a reckless suicide mission.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
A first class propaganda exercise though and a stomping tune from the soundtrack of the first film.
I hardly think that something that kills at least 1,500 Germans can possibly be called a failure, h. A good start, at worst.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman
square headed brutes was pitiful. Would have been far more efficient to drop bombs directly on their heads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Bomber (PBUH) considered the whole shindig a failure and waste of resources. He could have used the money for a couple of extra Dresdens.
He hated all forms of tactical bombing, though. He hated releasing Bomber Command to support D-Day, ffs. Much as I admire his steadfast commitment to killing vast numbers of sausage-munchers, he did have his blind spots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert Augustus Chapman
Must be something about bomber command people being blood thirsty psychopaths.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
See also Curtis Lemay and the fire bombing of largely wooden Japanese cities in WW2. Mentallers.
Are you some sort of yellow-bellied pacifist, for Christ's sake?Quote:
Originally Posted by WES
You know the nips started it, right? And you know that, given the chance, they’d have done worse to us?Quote:
Originally Posted by WES
As Admiral Jackie Fisher put it: ‘The essence of war is violence. Moderation in war is imbecility.’
Sound chap.
Yes, I was rather aware of that. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
And while I have no issue with bombing the hell out of military targets, including industry and transportation, even if there is significant civilian collateral damage, I do draw the line at deliberately targeting civilian areas with bombs which would burn their homes to the ground and burn millions of civilians to death.
As McNamara said 'had we lost the war we would have been tried as war criminals, and what makes it right if you win but not if you lose?'.
Well said, Bob.
Yes. That would be the McNamara who lost the only war he ever oversaw, wouldn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by WES
In total war, civilians ARE a military target, since their efforts sustain the military effort. Goebbels said that two more Hamburgs (Operation Gomorrah) would have ended Germany's ability to fight the war. Sadly, we didn't have the capacity to deliver them.
Pontificating on matters of morals with regard to a global, total, good vs evil conflict is a little bit silly.Quote:
Originally Posted by WES
Every civilian who failed to make it to the tank factory the following day was a minor step on the road to victory.
Had we lost the war we would have been tried irrespective of how we had behaved, because that was who we were fighting.
I said nothing of the sort ... oh that one. I was asked by a weird French countess if I was a relation of his the other weekQuote:
Originally Posted by WES
Harsh. A war he never wanted to fight and which he argued against from the start. His subsequent actions being driven by a slightly bizarre loyalty to the office of the POTUS. Until he finally had enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
And a war which perfectly highlight the inadequacy of the sort of bombing that Lemay and Harris so strongly supported. Highlighted by McNamara as much as anyone in that administration at the time.
I think you and I c, with our fine ayran profiles and robust physiques would have been fine in Hitler's "Neu Britannien". Not too sure how that hook nose little weasel Monty would have faired though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Of course. Attempting to bomb a largely non-industrialised country into submission was utterly retarded. After all, you can't destroy a military and industrial infrastructure that doesn't fùcking exist. Virtually all of North Vietnam's arms and materiel came from Russian freighters and over the Chinese border. Short of stopping those at source, the effort was hopeless.Quote:
Originally Posted by WES
Countess? Some ghastly little BCBG frog bird claiming aristocratic lineage I s'pose. Met a couple of those before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda