Can we still sell players abroad if their windows are not closed? I suspect they

keep their windows open as it's hot over there.

This is the time where I look online to see what free agents are available.

Yes
We can sell but not buy

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Pat Vegas

keep their windows open as it's hot over there.

This is the time where I look online to see what free agents are available.

---

The Spanish windows slams shut tonight. I see rumours of Ozil to Barca.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Pat Vegas

keep their windows open as it's hot over there.

This is the time where I look online to see what free agents are available.

---

:nono: They have those big wooden shutters closed to keep out the heat in the daytime.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Sir C

The Spanish windows slams shut tonight. I see rumours of Ozil to Barca.

---

How can this anomaly exist? Either the window slams shut or it doesn't.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Burney

:nono: They have those big wooden shutters closed to keep out the heat in the daytime.

---

:cloud9: I like those. Also they are very security conscious with their houses and windows with iron grills or gates around. Unlike the mastermind who designed my current flat who put bedroom window next to the door for upstairs and the drive way :furious:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Burney

How can this anomaly exist? Either the window slams shut or it doesn't.

---

Well, one declares that the slamshutting shall occur on 31st August, and Spain lifts its sombrero, cocks an eyebrow and replies, 'manana'.

It's just what they do, b.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Sir C

The Spanish windows slams shut tonight. I see rumours of Ozil to Barca.

---

Here is something controversial I will say Sir C.

Ozil as good as he is at times. I feel a bit MEH when it comes to him.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Pat Vegas

Here is something controversial I will say Sir C.

Ozil as good as he is at times. I feel a bit MEH when it comes to him.

---

That's fair enough, f. He is, in effect, an old-fashioned trequartista, which is a beast rare in the modern game. Back in the day we were used to having a playmaker who drifted in and out of games and was only peripherally involved, so we forgave him everything and simply admired the twiddly bits.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Pat Vegas

Here is something controversial I will say Sir C.

Ozil as good as he is at times. I feel a bit MEH when it comes to him.

---

I feel he'd have been a great player for us in a better team - if that makes any sense.

He needs players around him who are on his wavelength. I fear we don't have enough who are.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Sir C

Back in the day we were used to having a playmaker who drifted in and out of games and was only peripherally involved, so we forgave him everything and simply admired the twiddly bits.

---

Dennis.




:hide:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Sir C

That's fair enough, f. He is, in effect, an old-fashioned trequartista, which is a beast rare in the modern game. Back in the day we were used to having a playmaker who drifted in and out of games and was only peripherally involved, so we forgave him everything and simply admired the twiddly bits.

---

The hard graft of the rest of the team allowed Charlies Nicholas and George to do their stuff
Our flimsiness only helps to expose how luxuriant Ozil is
ie goes missing

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Burney

I feel he'd have been a great player for us in a better team - if that makes any sense.

He needs players around him who are on his wavelength. I fear we don't have enough who are.

---

Yes, players like Cristiano Ronaldo.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Ash

Dennis.

:hide:

---

I was thinking further back really, of Brady and Hoddle and Currie and Bowles and so on. But your point is valid.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Ash

Dennis.




:hide:

---

Dennis was never a luxury, A, for any side he ever played for. He scored over 300 goals.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Burney

I feel he'd have been a great player for us in a better team - if that makes any sense.

He needs players around him who are on his wavelength. I fear we don't have enough who are.

---

I think his limitation is his lack of personality. The truly great 10s would drag a team up with them by force of will. Mesut is liddle bit leemp.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by redgunamo

Yes, players like Cristiano Ronaldo.

---

No
Cristiano is a goalscorer supreme in his own right

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Viva Prat Vegas

No
Cristiano is a goalscorer supreme in his own right

---

I was being sarky, V.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Pat Vegas

:cloud9: I like those.

---

I like ceiling fans too
Their silence beguiles me

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by redgunamo

Dennis was never a luxury, A, for any side he ever played for. He scored over 300 goals.

---

That game at Old Trafford in the league in 98; the Overmars goal, when we knew it was on... Dennis went missing that day :-(

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by redgunamo

I was being sarky, V.

---

I am now face palming because it wooshed over my head
Sorry Houndmeister

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Viva Prat Vegas

I like ceiling fans too
Their silence beguiles me

---

I have two in my house. I fitted one in the front room last autumn and endured mockery for it during the winter.

However, come this summer, everyone has accepted that I am a genius for doing so.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Sir C

That game at Old Trafford in the league in 98; the Overmars goal, when we knew it was on... Dennis went missing that day :-(

---

He often did in big games. Let's face it: Dennis was a sublime player, but a bit of a bottle job.

Why else would he have been playing for us? :shrug:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Burney

He often did in big games. Let's face it: Dennis was a sublime player, but a bit of a bottle job.

Why else would he have been playing for us? :shrug:

---

Absolutely. I said it throughout his career. He should have been at Madrid with Zidane and Figo winning European Cups, instead of taking it easy with us.

Of course the truly big teams would never have allowed his non-flying clause...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Burney

I have two in my house. I fitted one in the front room last autumn and endured mockery for it during the winter.

However, come this summer, everyone has accepted that I am a genius for doing so.

---

I hope you remind them of the mockery meted out when your fans cool the occupants down
Do they take a lot of juice ?

Now is the time to install a wrought iron fireplace

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Sir C

Absolutely. I said it throughout his career. He should have been at Madrid with Zidane and Figo winning European Cups, instead of taking it easy with us.

Of course the truly big teams would never have allowed his non-flying clause...

---

I always imagined we crammed Dennis into a Mini Metro for the drives through Europe

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Viva Prat Vegas

I hope you remind them of the mockery meted out when your fans cool the occupants down
Do they take a lot of juice ?

Now is the time to install a wrought iron fireplace

---

Regularly. I'm not letting them forget it.

Not a huge amount. Generally, it's heating elements that really burn the leccy.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Sir C

Absolutely. I said it throughout his career. He should have been at Madrid with Zidane and Figo winning European Cups, instead of taking it easy with us.

Of course the truly big teams would never have allowed his non-flying clause...

---

Yes. Our relationship with Dennis always felt like we were the ugly bloke batting way above his average and just desperately grateful that the beautiful girl was even with him.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Sir C

Absolutely. I said it throughout his career. He should have been at Madrid with Zidane and Figo winning European Cups, instead of taking it easy with us.

Of course the truly big teams would never have allowed his non-flying clause...

---

Right. So he was practically perfect for us and our aspirations, at that time.

Though, I've always said allowing such snowflakery, even back then, was essentially the thin end of the wedge.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by redgunamo

Right. So he was practically perfect for us and our aspirations, at that time.

Though, I've always said allowing such snowflakery, even back then, was essentially the thin end of the wedge.

---

Fear of flying is simply arrogance, of course; a grossly inflated sense of self-worth. Perhaps that was what made him so fine.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Burney

Regularly. I'm not letting them forget it.

Not a huge amount. Generally, it's heating elements that really burn the leccy.

---

I've had one of they smart meters fitted. The fúcking thing is terrifying. I'm wandering around turning out lights and only using the oven when absolutely necessary. :-(

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Sir C

Fear of flying is simply arrogance, of course; a grossly inflated sense of self-worth. Perhaps that was what made him so fine.

---

Typical Dutchman, my wife called him; all campervan but no car.

I owned a campervan when I first met her :-|

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by redgunamo

Typical Dutchman, my wife called him; all campervan but no car.

I owned a campervan when I first met her :-|

---

Definitely the archetypal Dutchman. I can assure you that when he goes on holiday in his camper he takes everything, from tea bags to toilet rolls, so as not to have to take the risk of being ripped off by nasty foreigners.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Burney

How can this anomaly exist? Either the window slams shut or it doesn't.

---

Freedom of movement and all that. There's likely a players' association. For example, if I want to hire a writer who is represented by the Writer's Guild of America (WGA), I have to negotiate through the WGA. But I also have to set up a separate LLC to conduct those negotiations. Me dealing with them directly, just through my company, doesn't work. All the players, metaphorically, report to Andorra, Luxembourg, Monaco. From there they board flights to all parts of the world, safe in the knowledge that they are about to get paid ridiculous amounts.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Sir C

Fear of flying is simply arrogance, of course; a grossly inflated sense of self-worth. Perhaps that was what made him so fine.

---

It really, really isn't, you know? Because it's not about fear of death, it's about fear of actually flying. It's an irrational fear based on one's position and environment that provokes a physical reaction. This is why no amount of telling someone how safe flying is makes any difference. They know all that stuff, but are still suffering. It's no different to fear of heights in that regard. The person with a fear of heights is not shítting themselves because they think they'll die, they're shītting themselves because their brain is sending panic signals throughout their body due to their location and they can't control it.

This is what people who don't suffer these afflictions simply don't get. They seem to think that people develop these fears through some logical sequence of decisions and that, by deconstructing that logic, they can be 'cured'. It doesn't work like that.

You aren't not scared of flying because you have rationalised the situation, balanced all probabilities and come to a rational conclusion. You're not scared of flying simply because you're not scared of flying and it has never occurred to you that you should be. You're just lucky enough not to be wired up that way. It's the same thing for those of us who are scared - it's just how we are.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Burney

It really, really isn't, you know? Because it's not about fear of death, it's about fear of actually flying. It's an irrational fear based on one's position and environment that provokes a physical reaction. This is why no amount of telling someone how safe flying is makes any difference. They know all that stuff, but are still suffering. It's no different to fear of heights in that regard. The person with a fear of heights is not shítting themselves because they think they'll die, they're shītting themselves because their brain is sending panic signals throughout their body due to their location and they can't control it.

This is what people who don't suffer these afflictions simply don't get. They seem to think that people develop these fears through some logical sequence of decisions and that, by deconstructing that logic, they can be 'cured'. It doesn't work like that.

You aren't not scared of flying because you have rationalised the situation, balanced all probabilities and come to a rational conclusion. You're not scared of flying simply because you're not scared of flying and it has never occurred to you that you should be. You're just lucky enough not to be wired up that way. It's the same thing for those of us who are scared - it's just how we are.

---

Elegantly put and cogently argued, as ever. I remain unconvinced because I find fear of flying offensive. There, I've said it.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Burney

It really, really isn't, you know? Because it's not about fear of death, it's about fear of actually flying. It's an irrational fear based on one's position and environment that provokes a physical reaction. This is why no amount of telling someone how safe flying is makes any difference. They know all that stuff, but are still suffering. It's no different to fear of heights in that regard. The person with a fear of heights is not shítting themselves because they think they'll die, they're shītting themselves because their brain is sending panic signals throughout their body due to their location and they can't control it.

This is what people who don't suffer these afflictions simply don't get. They seem to think that people develop these fears through some logical sequence of decisions and that, by deconstructing that logic, they can be 'cured'. It doesn't work like that.

You aren't not scared of flying because you have rationalised the situation, balanced all probabilities and come to a rational conclusion. You're not scared of flying simply because you're not scared of flying and it has never occurred to you that you should be. You're just lucky enough not to be wired up that way. It's the same thing for those of us who are scared - it's just how we are.

---

I see. Can you describe your very first experience of flying, and further, when this "fear" first materialised?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Sir C

Elegantly put and cogently argued, as ever. I remain unconvinced because I find fear of flying offensive. There, I've said it.

---

Of course, in Dennis' case, the onset of the peculiarity arrived in his late twenties, so I gather.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Sir C

Absolutely. I said it throughout his career. He should have been at Madrid with Zidane and Figo winning European Cups, instead of taking it easy with us.

Of course the truly big teams would never have allowed his non-flying clause...

---

The non-flying clause happened after he'd been playing for us for two seasons. 98 World Cup incident.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by redgunamo

I see. Can you describe your very first experience of flying, and further, when this "fear" first materialised?

---

Certainly. My first experience of flying was when I was 10 on an old BAC-111 to Majorca. I was fine. I didn't like take-off (still don't), but for the rest of the flight I was calm.

My fear of flying didn't develop until my early 20s, really. It was a flight back from Ireland, I was badly hungover and suffered what I now realise to have been a mild claustrophobic panic attack . After that, the floodgates were open. Deep down, I associated flying with the feelings I had experienced on that one flight and to some extent still do. The fear is not of crashing, it's of being in the environment where one experiences those feelings. Now of course, there is no better way of ensuring that one experiences those feelings than by harbouring a fear of doing so, but the human brain is a fúcker like that and breaking that cycle is easier said than done.