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Good man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
Did you see this, by the way? Written in 1969, it accurately predicts the consequences affirmative action would have on American universities. It argues that, rather than overcome harmful racial stereotypes about academic ability, such policies would only serve to reinforce them, thus increasing divisions.
https://heterodoxacademy.org/2016/05...1969-prophecy/
Thanks, will read later. I do know that drop-out rates among African American kids who have been parachuted into college are pretty appalling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
And then there's just common sense based on what we know about human nature. In any context, if you know you made it somewhere through merit and the person next to you is only there because of the colour of their skin, resentment is inevitable.
The key passage is this one, which basically describes the situation on most US campuses today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
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No one can be expected to accept an inferior status willingly. The black students, unable to compete on even terms in the study of law, inevitably will seek other means to achieve recognition and self-expression. This is likely to take two forms. First, agitation to change the environment from one in which they are unable to compete to one in which they can. Demands will be made for elimination of competition, reduction in standards of performance, adoption of courses of study which do not require intensive legal analysis, and recognition for academic credit of sociological activities which have only an indirect relationship to legal training. Second, it seems probable that this group will seek personal satisfaction and public recognition by aggressive conduct, which, although ostensibly directed at external injustices and problems, will in fact be primarily motivated by the psychological needs of the members of the group to overcome feelings of inferiority caused by lack of success in their studies. Since the common denominator of the group of students with lower qualifications is one of race this aggressive expression will undoubtedly take the form of racial demands–the employment of faculty on the basis of race, a marking system based on race, the establishment of a black curriculum and a black law journal, an increase in black financial aid, and a rule against expulsion of black students who fail to satisfy minimum academic standards.
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Originally Posted by Burney
I can't believe he missed out the Society of Black Lawyers.Quote:
the employment of faculty on the basis of race, a marking system based on race, the establishment of a black curriculum and a black law journal, an increase in black financial aid, and a rule against expulsion of black students who fail to satisfy minimum academic standards.
He can't be expected to predict everything. He also missed out the fact that large numbers of white students and faculty would bend over backwards to support the black students in these endeavours out of 'solidarity'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
And naked self-interest, of course. "Virtue signalling", as it seems to be known nowadays.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
The thing about virtue signalling is that it must surely have now reached a point that there is no social reward for engaging in it. After all, if everyone's doing it, all the time, then where is the virtue? it's just what you do, right? There's nothing to be gained, as such.Quote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo
Which tell me that there's something else going on...
Virtue is self-rewarding, M. People of virtue simply feel (as if they are) better than the rest of us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
It's funny how easy our virtue can slip, though, isn't it. For example, a couple of weeks ago, we cancelled a garden party because the weather forecast was looking terrible. When it came to the day, my partner was praying for it to rain (in order to justify our decision to cancel) even though her friend was also having a party on the same day and had decided to go ahead.Quote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo
This to me gets to the heart of the bull**** of virtue rather neatly.
Oh, sure. It's only a facade anyway, and so, if everyone's doing it that way then where's the harm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
A garden party? Are you married to the queen?Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
Like a barbecue thingy. In the garden.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Just us and a few neighbours. (Mesut not invited, the contract-running-down ****).
Only thing to do when the weather's this fair and agreeable, innit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
It's only a new way to describe something that has always been there, though. What we are calling virtue here is a kind of status, and status-signalling is as old as the hills, doncha know? The way it manifests is subject to local conditions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
Remember the parable of the ostentatious rich fella who was extravagantly making a large donation to the collection-bowl, versus the little old lady humbly and discretely adding her penny?
Oh no, you wouldn't. Sorry.
A mistake, in my view. You could have leant on him a little, twisted his arm a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
No-one would've remembered him had he been poor. That one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
You socialise with your neighbours? Blimey.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
Fair play to you, of course. Are they hanging on your bell all the time asking to borrow a quarter-pint of beer in a pint glass?
:nod: The lesson of the widow's mite, a.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
His mum's hanging on my bell all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
We remembered the poor lady, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo
What kind of a Christian are you, anyway? I'm not sure you are getting into the spirit of modest humility here, tbh.
Of course. My mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
It's kinda unavoidable with a communal garden and children.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
That's the nicest thing you've ever said to me, A.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
It's true, the redgunamos don't do modest humility. For us, that's just another dishonest way for rich people to convince poor people of the worthlessness of money.
Communal garden.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
Children.
Where did it all go wrong, m?
He was unwilling to travel over from HampsteadQuote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
So essentially Christianity is a con perpetrated by the rich to subdue the poor. An opiate of the masses, as it were?Quote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo
Yes. Bit concerned to discover that red is a commie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
It will be with the greatest reluctance that I have to put him up against the wall when the glorious day comes. :-(
Communal gardens are awful. In order to use them, you have to interact with all sorts of ghastly types. :-(Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Perhaps it's more to keep the rich rich. Nobody cares about the poor, do they, until they get rich?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
Not at all; I'm a married man with four siblings and four sons. I've no truck with corportate identities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Yes, I know exactly the 'types' to which you refer. :myers:Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Not when you live in Hampstead :cloud9: Everyone's wonderfully, inoffensively middle class. Obviously ****s, still, but not common at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
God, no! I'd never interact with Jews.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
What sort of person do you take me for? :-(
An Irishman? :-(Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
You've moved?Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
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Which is why he fits right inQuote:
Originally Posted by Ash