the referendum. What i was not aware of until now is these "crimes" are actually reports submitted online, and they can also be done anonymously. Surely the papers must get bored of the mud slinging and scare mongering every day?
the referendum. What i was not aware of until now is these "crimes" are actually reports submitted online, and they can also be done anonymously. Surely the papers must get bored of the mud slinging and scare mongering every day?
I read a funny article recently about divorces caused by brexit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Goat Sverige
Not obvious differences, but one older English couple. He voted to leave and I wanted to stay so that was the end of our 30 year old marriage.
:shrug: Any excuse imo
The irony is that you can be almost certain the biggest spike in abuse and vitriol has been that experienced by Brexit voters. Except the kind of people to vote Brexit aren't generally the type to cry to the police if someone said something mean to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Goat Sverige
Oh yes. There was that mental professor who objected to Amber Rudd saying in a speech that the government had a duty to ensure that British people had decent jobs. He reported her to the police for this hate crime. Now the police told him to fúck off, as there clearly weren't grounds to arrst her, but the report still goes on the statistics as a hate crime.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Goat Sverige
Idiots.
It's all böllocks. Even that Polish bloke who got battered in Harlow they eventually had to admit had nothing to do with hate crime (having trumpeted it as such for months of course).Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Goat Sverige
This is worth a read
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/02...e-crime-spike/
:hehe: Scaremongering has been the Daily Mail and Daily Express's raison d'être for decades now - why are so concerned this time?Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Goat Sverige
It has not been recorded as a hate crime, but a non-crime hate incident FACTQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
A non-crime hate incident, is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Anaconda
Well thank God for that, then.
Not to be confused with a non-incident crime.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Well of course one of the unmentioned 'hate crimes' would be class hatred of course directed towards the lower classes - as would hatred towards the elderly. And both those would have seen a massive spike since the referendum emanating from Remain voters. But, as you say, of course, those people don't see themselves as victims and therefore wouldn't report abuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
I think it's the class thing that I find most interesting about Brexit. The sneering, patronising contempt of the bien pensant middle classes for the working classes is one thing, but that can be disguised as pity for the easily-led plebs. More interesting is the way that those classes feel about those they see as 'their own' who voted Leave. Many of them hate us and see us as traitors because we voted the same way as that horrid racist Farage man and his horrid racist pleb followers and not with our own. I regularly get a palpable sense of shock and horror from people because I'm middle-class, well-educated, well-spoken and work in the media, but am happy to say I voted Leave. It really is quite extraordinary how bound up with class identity this issue is for some people.
Did you see him get torn apart by Andrew Neill? It was very funny. :hehe: Although you got the feeling Neill actually felt sorry for the poor old fool after a while and went easy on him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
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Originally Posted by Burney
Andrew Neil and Derek Hatton :hehe:
Andrew quoted Derek
Derek told him not to believe everything he reads in the press
Andrew : It was your article
:hehe: Yes, Neill definitely started pulling his punches when he realised the bloke was utterly out of his depth; Michael Howard was happy to wade in still swinging though :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
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Originally Posted by Burney
Andrew Neil and Derek Hatton :hehe:
Andrew quoted Derek
Derek told him not to believe everything he reads in the press
Andrew : You wrote it