on comment pages and social media this morning at the outlandish suggestion that the Prime Minister is going to announce that we're actually going to do what people voted for in June.
Odd lot, people, aren't they? :shrug:
on comment pages and social media this morning at the outlandish suggestion that the Prime Minister is going to announce that we're actually going to do what people voted for in June.
Odd lot, people, aren't they? :shrug:
There's something else very odd about this. The government has clearly briefed the press that this is the statement of strategy for the forthcoming negotiations, the results of which negotiations are likely to have a serious impact upon the UK.
Should the prime minister not be issuing such a statement to, you know, the House of Commons, which is, like, where our parliamentary democracy happens? Choosing to make the statement in a speech is bad enough, but then leaking the fúcking thing to the press 48 hours before the event if fúcking repulsive.
I am distressed.
Nah. All policy and negotiating positions are first unveiled in speeches these days rather than the HoC. The press leak is pretty standard practice to get the markets' bedwetting out of the way and let them settle down before the actual speech is given.
Currently reading 'All Out War' by Tim Shipman about the Brexit campaign. Pretty much every important policy item in the run-up to that was given at an external speech. Cameron announced the fact he was going to hold a referendum at a speech to Bloomberg, ffs!
It makes no sense at all. We voted on the relatively simple issue of how we are governed and by whom. A vote on the details of our exit would be absurd as it would render all negotiations meaningless. Besides which, it would be hijacked by Remain as a means of indefinitely delaying our exit.
It happening as a matter of course these days does not make it right.
I am not happy with the cabinet, b. Not happy at all. Cameron and Osborne were distressingly limp, but at least they appeared statesmanlike. This lot are a bunch of chancers and wide boys and May is quite clearly way out of her depth.
At the next election I shall vite Lib Dem, or perhaps Green.
Don't be silly.
Terms are decided upon by party 1 and then discussed at length and compromise reached on some issues, some dropped altogether, others won.
The idea of allowing the people to decide the finite terms of agreement is imbecilic even by your extremely high standards.
In summary you were stupid enough to allow this vote/referendum to go to the people but it has and now you have to roll with the decision. Those who do not like it and who are questioning it are simply the adult equivalent of a toddler having a tantrum because they did not get their way.
I do wonder whether in some ways it would have been better if we'd triggered Article 50 straight away. The intervening six months have provided Remain voters with the comfort blanket of denial that it either wouldn't happen, would be delayed indefinitely or would be so watered down as to be virtually meaningless. The reality is only sinking in now and the Remain voters are having a shït fit.
Check this shÃ*t out, not sure it would be reported in your so called Great Britain.
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/polit...case-1.2935102
Jolyon. Who the fúck calls their son Jolyon, basically sentencing them to a good kicking for most of their teenage years.
He was just trying to do whatever it took to try and frighten the public into compliance. It was clear to everyone that he couldn't remain as PM if he lost the vote since he wouldn't have had the confidence of his party or the country to do so. Given that, there's no way he could have triggered A50 and then left, since that would have been monstrous. Nothing to do with cowardice, just a gamble that he lost.
I expect that's because social media and comments pages are frequented by people who like to be outraged. If it wasn't this, it would be something else. Prior to the internet they went down the pub and did so until someone told them to shut up and get their round in.
Sadly, there is no such control on the internet.
It's amazing to me that you people could have walked open-eyed into tis fvckup. At least we're gonna go supernova with Trump, whereas you guys are going to go out with all the drama of a wet fart. Great Britain no more. Just England Wales and a few islands in the Caribbean.
Joe Leon.
British F1 driver Jolyon Palmer can thank his father Jonathon, himself a former F1 driver and now owner of various racing circuits including Brands Hatch. Whether Cranleigh independent school in Surrey is a bastion of nomenclature-based bullying I cannot say.
A man with hair like that can't be all bad, that's what I say.
Talking of hair, did you see this fellow? He wants to bring down the government, apparently. :hehe:
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Just saying that the suspension of constitutional rights (such as habeas corpus) and the reversion to executive authority are hardly unknown in US history. We haven't reverted to our monarch when we've done it, though (i.e. in the two world wars), we've relied on elected officials acting in a cross-party capacity.
You have to remember that our monarch is purely a figurehead from a political point of view. Her power is purely theoretical.