how does a chap tell?
What I do? What I earn? What my parents did? Where I went to school?
21 years after moving to this country and still fail to understand what is left of the class system, I'm afraid.
how does a chap tell?
What I do? What I earn? What my parents did? Where I went to school?
21 years after moving to this country and still fail to understand what is left of the class system, I'm afraid.
Let's ignore it brother. I am commoner according to this place.Quote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella
It's much easier back home, Pat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
It's all about the $$$
You have no place in the British class system, being foreign. You might be considered an honorary nouveau-riche arriviste at best, but in general grubby foreigners rank somewhere below dole-scroungers in the British hierarchy.Quote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella
And quite rightly so, if I may make so bold as to venture an opinion. My right to do so being arguable, given that I am quite foreign myself.
My cousin and her soon to be husband were in London this week for the first time.Quote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella
They seemed to love the fact we could drink outside the pub.
Also it seems everyone in my family in Canada either works as an accountant or be a carpenter.
Ooh I quite like that. Sounds rather more sophisticated than moose shagger or beaver botherer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
I'll take it. Cheers.
Should I apply for a British Passport with all this Brexit stuff?Quote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella
It really is terribly complicated. Basically there are several class templates that all overlay each other, allowing one to exist in various classes simultaneously.Quote:
Originally Posted by World's End Stella
For example, a good friend of mine enjoys at times the profile of a terribly proud, gritty, working class northener (especially when drunk) but is equally happy to play the middle-class southerner when proving his urbane, cosmopolitan pro-EU credentials when he needs to impress his peers.
Ah Ash I was listening to some interesting history of unions in America, radio programmeQuote:
Originally Posted by Ash
I find it fascinating the anti communism sentiment over there yet a large majority are pro unions. They go hand in hand.
Yes. You have a foreign name of course, that, while it adds a certain mystique, also makes it quite clear you're a clogwog. If it weren't for that - and some odd culinary habits - you could pass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
Everywon just assumes I am jock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
If I have a kid I will give him an Italian first name.
Though my wife doesn't like the idea.
'Giuseppe McTavish', eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
:nod: I better pick one I can pronounce properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
How come the name Enzo is common in the boxing world.
For some reason there have been a number of Scotch raciing drivers of Italian extraction. eg: Dario FranchittiQuote:
Originally Posted by Burney
One of my sons is named "Carmine".Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
lol. Yeah, right. We just call him "Minnie".
It's a shortening of "Vincent", innit. Anyway "Vincenzo".Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
There's only one Enzo, Pat. Enzo FerrariQuote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...racing_car.jpg
as you can see - Mesut Ozil in a previous life.
That whiny young singer too, did "Iron Sky".Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
That's the sort of name you find on American mafia type shows. Carmine is usually an associate.Quote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo
Very kind of you to say so, b.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Lot of Italian immigrants to Italy. Not least because it was where we had a lot of our POW camps in WWII and since half the Italian army surrendered to us in the desert, that meant a fair few stayed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
I meant it as a compliment, of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir C
One can appreciate collective bargaining in the workplace without favouring the collectivisation of the whole economy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
So how about this fella.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
https://bergkampesque.files.wordpres...ad-2.jpg?w=640
Yes, but they pronounce it 'Car-Mine' whereas I understand it's supposed to be pronounced 'Car-min-eh', which is a bit girly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
And so I took it, naturally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
I will see if I can find it it was quite interesting. More in depth than how I described it of course. Talking about violent acts from unions and such.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
He's the subject of Michael Mann's next movie apparently. Was to be played by Cristiano Bale but he was forced to pull out of the project due to his Carling Cup, or whatever the Spanish call it, commitments with Real Madrid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
Shame..
good point. it's easily said like ooooooooh Carmine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Oh, he wrote the Pink Panther theme.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
It's against family tradition and protocol but my mother named him for her best friend, Carmen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
Why was your mother naming your children, r? That's not how it work, surely?Quote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo
Very girly indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
The Wire: Season 2: Essential viewing to see what Yanqui unions are all about imoQuote:
Originally Posted by Pat Vegas
Grandparents name the grandchildren, according to sex. So, for instance, my dad named my boys, my mother-in-law named the girls. Of course, you can twist the odd arm here or there or offer up a suggestion or two but that's the rule as it's written and understood.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Rum business. Wouldn't do in my family.Quote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo
Nobody cares what children are called really. Everyone knows hounds are far more important; I wouldn't let them name *mine*.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
yeah rightQuote:
Originally Posted by Ash