Four major terrorist attacks in 18 months is enough to test anyone's spirit of tolerance.
Four major terrorist attacks in 18 months is enough to test anyone's spirit of tolerance.
I dunno. Mass round-ups, large-scale extra-judicial killings - it's not like the French have been too squeamish to do things like that in the relatively recent past. I couldn't blame them if they did :shrug:
Yes, I saw that. Woefully predictable. These Allan ****ers must find our pusillanimity utterly hilarious. No wonder they despise us.
I say that we're already in a war with these ****ers, but some people are just too cowardly to admit it and realise that fighting back would be an admission of the fact.
Well, oine suspects that the police and security services know of many individuals they are pretty sure are radical, many mosques where such radicalism is propagated and so on, but lack hard evidence to address these matters within the bounds of the law; it is feasible that, at some point, the government will allow them to, shall we say, stretch the limits of the law? See 'Big Boys Rules', the story of the SAS in Northern Ireland, for example; or, indeed, the SAS in Gibraltar.
Big difference between a handful of Paddies and 20 million Allans spread throughout Europe. Internment camps dealing with such large numbers would quickly become concentration camps (in the true sense of their original meaning of a facility to contain large numbers of people).
Think how bloody messy it would become.
I really do feel for our French comrades. They are having a terrible time and seem completely powerless to stop the Allans striking at will. I wonder how long it will be before the Front National comes into power, as I really do think that it's the path we're heading down.
We should be thankful that we're surrounded by sea and not part of the Shengen zone. Our security forces appear to be doing ever such an outstanding job as well. I really hope that our decision to leave the EU does not impact their ability/willingness to share intelligence as it's clearly necessary in these uncertain times.
Well put it this way, if a succession of unidentified individuals who had launched deadly attacks were all found to have the same book in their homes with the same title and the same directives within it about why undertaking such deadly acts would be a good and laudable thing worthy of the highest reward imaginable, do you think we would ordinarily agree that this is a notable common denominator worthy of further investigation?
Oh, I'm not arguing for such an escalation; I don't have the experience in these matters to predict the likely outcome. I'm just wondering how long it will be before governments are forced down this sort of road by popular opinion.
Valls' statements this morning have surely handed Ler Pen a million votes, for example.
I suppose the only real way of addressing the thing properly is to firstly turn off the source of the brainwashing, and that means taking out Saudi Arabia, and that means starting a world war.
It's going to take a US president with quite some strength of conviction to get into that little lot.
I'm not proposing investigating the millions of people who own a copy of The Book That Has Nothing To Do With Islam. But acknowledging this common denominator could, for example, force us to consider whether it may be worth promoting with greater force the idea that the book that they believe to hold the immutable truth of our existence, and that explicitly states that you will go to paradise by killing innocent people, is ****ing bull**** and, if you do not disown it, you will never be truly welcome in our society.
You're a genius Ash. The only way to beat a commie is to attack him from the left. It figures the only way to beat a fundamentalist is to denounce him as a poor muslim.
When Jihadi John was up to his nonsense I was all in favour of starting a Twitter campaign drawing attention to his antics as a DJ and calling him a fraud and a Godless infidel and seeing if we could get his head cut off.
All of the 'kids' I work with were uncomfortable with the idea because they thought it might just work and how terrible would we all feel causing another human being to be decapitated? Err....would've been fine with me :nod:
I would start by executing the families of terrorists involved in such murders, two generations up and two generations down.
At this stage it is hard to see what France can do, frankly (no pun intended). I am afraid they are reaping what they have sown over the past 40 years. Since the 1970s they have allowed allowed immigrants (mostly from the Muslim World) to permanently settle in France with their families and to acquire French citizenship. Alongside this, they renounced the policy of assimilation in favour of integration. It does not take many to become radicalised to create the carnage we have seen there over the past 18 months.
The Angela Merkel-led EU open door approach to the migrant crisis last year can only have made matters worse; I am just very thankful we have voted to take control of our own immigration policy, and until we can do so have the Shengen Zone exemption to give us a measure of protection. I hope we continue to be a tolerant society, but at the same time we need to apply the precautionary principle in considering future applications for immigration. If push came to shove, far better to risk being accused of prejudice than to potentially put many lives at risk.
The first thing that needs to happen is for the Front National to win the elections. The softly-softly approach has been tried and failed. Maybe it's time to try something else.
What does he usually open with?
There's no 'usually' with the Great Man; each show is unique, an individual experience.
How well I remember 4th July 1985, when he strolled out on stage at Wembley, alone, armed just with an acoustic guitar, sat down on the edge of the stage and opened with 'Independence Day'. At Coventry last month he opened at the piano with an acoustic 'For You'. On the other hand, sometimes the show is kicked off with a rollicking singalong like, 'My Love Will Not Let You Down'. There's no way of knowing in advance. :cloud9: