"Is this the promised end
Or image of that horror?
Fall, and cease!"
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"Is this the promised end
Or image of that horror?
Fall, and cease!"
Isn't Shakespeare known for never having been closer to Europe than Fleet Street?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mo Britain less Europe
This is the real bonus of the outcome. The hand wringing, the faux grieving. It certainly goes some way towards ameliorating their spitefulness towards those forgotten but very real people. Least, I think that's how Farage bracketed them..Quote:
Originally Posted by Mo Britain less Europe
I'm afraid the Remain campaign, some at least, started their gloating a little early. If they'd been more gracious when it looked like they'd won maybe the other lot would have been more gracious when they actually did win.
I am particularly proud of Leave voters for ignoring the blatant attempts to emotionally blackmail them into voting Remain after the Jo Cox business. I'd been confident before that, but I must admit I thought that might swing it. wd everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mo Britain less Europe
I thought the Jo Cox murder had swung it. I was wrong. I underestimated the strength of the loathing which had built up against the EU and its leadership. I do think if it hadn't happened though the result would have been even clearer, probably topping 55% for leave.
I'm not sure. I think the timing was helpful. Leave took a knock immediately afterwards, but just about had time to recover from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mo Britain less Europe
It occurred to me at the time that this poor woman's sort was actually part of the problem, the issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mo Britain less Europe
Yes, she was *from* there and everything, but her career suggested she was much more concerned with representing foreigners, in foreign even, than she was bothered about standing up for local people in her constituency.
I'm a long way away from it though, so I could've misread the whole thing.
No. That's about right. If you look at how that sort of area voted, her support for Remain was clearly not in harmony with the feelings of many of her constituents.Quote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo
Ah, good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Stands to reason really. I mean, you don't go to Cambridge just to spend your career chatting to former miner's wives in your home village about the price of eggs, do you.
Miners? Blimey, you have been away a long time haven't you? :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by redgunamo
:hehe: I was even surprised Henley voted In!Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Do we know if it was tight enough for the slightly-lower-than-expected turnout in London (due to the weather) to swing it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Burney
Surely huge numbers of those who voted Leave aren't politically engaged enough to "loath" the EU?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mo Britain less Europe
Weather out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
They were politically engaged enough to hate having been lied to about Europe for 40 years and ignored and insulted if they dared to object. It amounts to the same thing, ultimately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
Not really. I seriously doubt 1.3 million Remain voters were prevented from voting by flooding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monty92
I think they're all at GlastonburyQuote:
Originally Posted by Burney